Login to Account Create an Account
my ferals, semi ferals, and grumpy old lady(tuscany)
Posted 07 November 2006 - 10:17 PM
ANyone have experience with aspiration pneumonias in cats?? Do they recover? Do they always have breathing issues after? Any of the little kittens on Baytril have issues later?
I am so tired with only 4 hours of sleep last pm. Got to get up early tomorrow and go transfer the kitten. Later, Joyce
Thanks for all the thoughts, prayers. Keep them coming. Nancy, I'll try looking you up tomorrow.
Posted 08 November 2006 - 01:36 AM
I'm sending good healing thoughts for Josie. It sounds like she's got some "fight" in her. Hopefully she'll turn the corner soon.
Posted 08 November 2006 - 09:48 AM
Please give us an update when you can....
Thanks for helping this little one.
Posted 08 November 2006 - 10:20 PM
Today I transfered her from the ER vet where she spent the night to the "pulmonary spa". A different vet in town where they do have nebulizers. I guess yesterday when she got to the ER vet her O2 sat was only about 68%. This was after a day at the vet who did the spay, not on O2 or having any treatments. They had her O2 saturation up to about 89% when she left the ER vet this am.
At the vet today, she spent most of the day in an O2 container. Had 3 nebulizer treatments and coupage. Her O2 saturations were only around high 70's to 82 all day. She didn't eat much or drink, or pee or poop for them. They did not give her fluids (sub q or thru the cath that she stilll has in her front left leg) go figure.
So despite the low sats they told me to take her home and watch her tonight. If she gets worse take her to the ER vet again. Regardless to bring her back tomorrow for more treatments. I am still to give her clavamox and baytril tonight.
I did feed her some tuna, snarfed it down. She looks better than what she did. How long do I do this for a homeless kitten????? How much is this worth????
Ok, yes, I COULD keep her. I was not in my plans at all. I am happy with my feral colony and the attentions of Mama and Wee (Libbey showed tonight and came right up to me). If I was to do another full time inside cat I'd like to have a pet not a feral. Does that make sense?? See, we travel with our inside cats upnorth and sailing. We travel and leave the cats with a sitter. When they are pets, at least the sitter can interact and know that the cats are ok. With the ferals/semi ferals like Mama, she won't even come inside if someone else is here.
Ok, now I have the babbles (francine often calls it that). I am agonizing over this poor kitten.
Nancy, I got your number, haven't called yet cause I'm not sure what the disposition of this kitten will be. If she survives I may still need to call you for at least fostering so her meds get in her etc. I hope tomorrow gives me more clarity on what to do.
Thanks everyone for you thoughts and prayers. Joyce
Posted 09 November 2006 - 08:54 AM
How old is Josie? After all this she may indeed become an indoor pet...some of the best cats I've adopted at the rescue started as outdoor cats! Hmmm...I'm having visions of Josie lounging on a sailboat upnorth
Sent you a PM that I could foster Josie while you are gone. I'll check with my vet to see what he has in the line of treatment options in case she needed something while here....then I'll wait to hear from you later today...call me either way, OK?
P.S. There may be more than one IMOM meeting this weekend! Cindy and her five and Joyce and I!
Posted 09 November 2006 - 09:35 AM
How long do I do this for a homeless kitten????? How much is this worth????
re: Baytril -- The general rule is you don't use it in kittens because it can harm their growth plates. But if the kitten might die otherwise, I think you say to hell with the growth plates!
Edited by Kim, 09 November 2006 - 09:42 AM.
Posted 09 November 2006 - 01:25 PM
She is back at the vet's today. He is going to try 2 pulmonary treatments today and hopefully keep her off the oxygen. The vets are surprised that she doesn't feel that distresses or that her gums/tongue stay so pink with such low O2 sats. Of course she isn't moving around much so if she had the ability to run who knows how that would affect her. Regarding any possible other congenital problems causeing this low O2 - per one vet unlikely that she would have survived as well in the wild or survived anesthesia.
If she does well today and tonight I am supposed to take her back to the vets again tomorrow just for 1 nebulizer treatment while I wait.
Nancy, I'm going to sign off and make a call around her for someone to take the cat for the week, if that is a no go I'll be calling you (will call either way). I don't see a PM - but now sure if I can get them (did see an email, though and think Kim sent me a PM so I must be able to get them - it's the computer illiterate thing again)
Will try updating later. Have had the PTS discussion with all 3 vets now. THe one today said he was very glad she had done so well overnight otherwise he would have been encouraging that. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Posted 09 November 2006 - 09:47 PM
Since coming home I've gotten her settled back up in the closet BUT she doesn't want to eat or come out of the carrier. In fact when I pet her she purrs but also looks like she is breathing out thru her mouth, something that the vets keep saying is not a good sign. Ugh, I want her to get better.
I did have a very nice chat with Nancy tonight. She has offered some good suggestions. I also found a vet that boards right by my house with very reasonable prices that I could keep her at while I am away. I've just got to get her better enough!
Still keep this little kitten in your thoughts/prayers etc.
OH - Confirmation tonight - there is ANOTHER kitten. Probably this ones litter mate even though I never saw them together. This one is the bolter. If it sees you or movement it is gone. Guess I'll have to trap another when the trauma of this one wears off. Joyce
Posted 09 November 2006 - 10:21 PM
Posted 10 November 2006 - 01:32 AM
I'm keeping Josie in my thoughts and prayers. I'm hoping she improves and starts feeling better soon.
Posted 10 November 2006 - 03:12 AM
How's she doing this morning?
Edited by Kim, 10 November 2006 - 10:06 AM.
Posted 10 November 2006 - 12:49 PM
Kim, Joyce and I talked about the fact that she's becoming attached to Josie. She was hoping that another cat in her life would be one she picked out and not a tabby. I told her cats pick you not the other way around, LOL! I told her we see the "writing on the wall" as to where Josie belongs and she will eventually see it too
If for some reason that's not the case...I have pretty good luck placing special needs kitties (if for some reason Josie ends up with long term problems) and I'm willing to take her at my rescue.
For now, I'm praying for quick healing for Josie, so Joyce doesn't have to worry about it the whole time she is gone!
Posted 10 November 2006 - 11:25 PM
Joyce will be gone a week, so unless her friend calls me because of a problem, we'll have to wait until next weekend for an update! Keep Josie in your thoughts and prayers, so the update we get is she's all healthy and happy!
Posted 11 November 2006 - 10:47 AM
Hope she does well this week while we are gone. Hope she hits the litter box with the poop a little better than what she is doing. It is a bit loose probably from antibiotics and she is messy with it. She needs to start cleaning the back end better!
OK,, really, got to go pack. I haven't even started - I hate packing. We do have to leave in a few hours and I have a woman coming over at 11 to pick up my traps. She has a few strays/ferals that she is going to try to TNR. Joyce
Thanks for everyones help and thoughts
Posted 11 November 2006 - 12:00 PM
Posted 20 November 2006 - 02:11 PM
I brought her home yesterday - back to my closet. She wasn't locked into the cage this time and seems to be doing ok. I still think that she isn't quite right. I think I might be inheriting that CCL neurosis. It seems like she works harder than the other cats at purring - like her whole abdomin, diaphragm area seems to be contracting. She isn't coughing but still has some sneezing going on. At this point in time she is done with the Baytril and still on the Clavamox.
Josie is using the litter box but with defecation she has some issues of cleaning herself after. She didn't like the backend wash I gave her yesterday. Today's was better. Perhaps some of the issue has been loose stool with the meds....
Tomorrow at 10 I take her back to the vet. I'll see what she has to say. I think they will be rexraying her. Hope things look clear.
I still need to talk with Nancy. I still would like to see if I can get this girl adopted. This is of course assuming her health is ok. I just am not convinced yet that I want another inside cat. (It is close to the 2 year anniversary of Merlot's bridge day and that may be part of the issue - not quite ready....)
OK, more later. I hope Josie survives the day. Her horizons were expanded to closet (this is a large room), the dressing area and the large bathroom (thought she could use a window and some light). I am hoping when we get home later she will come up to us and not make us hunt for her thru the closet. Joyce
Posted 20 November 2006 - 03:30 PM
Joyce, really I just want to thank you for taking care of her. I know it has been tough on many levels.
Please give Josie some purr evoking petting from us!
Martha Jane and Baila
Posted 21 November 2006 - 12:56 AM
Posted 21 November 2006 - 07:17 PM
Well, got to go to dentist as I have been unable to close my mouth for a month. I thought it was a TMJ issue and it got worse over the weekend. Made the call monday am and of course now it is feeling much better. Still going for my xrays and to make sure it isn't an abscess or some wisdom tooth issue. Joyce
Posted 21 November 2006 - 07:43 PM
Fingers crossed for little Josie. And you!
ps) If you have trouble getting liquid clindamycin into her (it tastes AWFUL), it's also available in small tablets: Clintabs
Posted 22 November 2006 - 12:14 AM
With the one dose of meds she didn't fight me too much. She might start getting wise to them. I remember when we tried Tuscany on elavil - she was nearly rabid with mouth foaming any time we came near her with the meds in anticipation. I'll see how Josie does. Thanks for the hint on the clindatabs. I sure hope this kitty turns around soon. She is at least showing a little more interest in her closet. She even ventured to the edge of the door of the closet/bedroom and looked like she was going to make a break for it. Mama certainly put her in her place......
I am hoping that Josie gets a little older and we can repeat her FeLv. Who knows, even though she was negative the first time around - she could be positive. Maybe this is contributing to her illness.
Hopefully all the comings and going this weekend, including 7 extra people here for 4 - 7 days doesn't get her too anxious. This is the main reason why she is up in my closet vs elsewhere in the house. I figure it is the one place that most people will stay out of anyways :>
Got to get medicate Josie again and get to bed. I have a full day of work and will need to come home to a full house of in laws and then figure out what I am cooking. Ya should have seen me in the store without my list - I just threw everything I might need (except the cranberry) into my cart. I am not sure which recipe I'll follow - but at least I have almost any ingredient I may need.
Hey, anybody have any thougths on lung specialists in cats??? Anyone ever have their cat get a bronchial washing?? Joyce
Posted 25 November 2006 - 07:50 PM
Posted 25 November 2006 - 08:54 PM
I'm glad to hear that Josie is improving. Those all soubnd like positive signs to me. I hope her improvement continues.
Posted 25 November 2006 - 09:46 PM
Merry Christmas, LOL! Glad Josie is doing better....let me know how it goes...I've had some adoptions and hopefully will have room soon...should you decide to give her up!
Posted 27 November 2006 - 11:13 PM
Josie: Still in the closet/bathroom area. I brought up the spinning/hiding mouse thingamajig and she loves it. She is playing more and being fiestier about her meds. I still have to snag her to make her sit in my lap - but them can't get rid of her :> She likes her belly rubbed. Oh, she also nibbled on me! Love those little nibbles.
I spoke to the vet today. Since she seems to be responding to that awful tasting Clindamycin we are going to continue it. Guess if she had toxoplasmosis you usually treat for 2 -3 weeks. Was it the clindamycin or the panacar?? Who knows. We are going to re xray next tuesday.
Nancy, We are still holding back on committing to her. I still may need to take you up on adoption but obviously need to get her thru this illness first. I'll keep you posted.
Posted 27 November 2006 - 11:18 PM
My little colony certainly is looking pleasingly plump. Wee is almost chubby now - and I don't even see her eat too much. Even Annie has filled in and doesn't look anorexic anymore. Duke is big, Libbey looks fluffy.....
Maybe I feed them too much. I usually put out dry food (Chicken Soup) twice a day (full bowl in am, up to a full one in evening but if it is too dark the 'coons just eat it) and I usually try to give what ever cat shows up 1/2 can (5 oz can) of wet food. Too much??? Joyce
Posted 28 November 2006 - 01:41 AM
As for the chubby ferals, I think it's good for them to have a little added "insulation" for the winter. They also tend to gain weight after they're altered. The one thing I'd watch for is that none of them gets so big that the cat can't reach its lower back and rear end to groom. With a housepet you can shave the fur back there and treat any irritation from urine or feces, but with a feral you'd have to retrap and then subject the cat to anesthesia again.
I just got some wonderful photos from one of my trailer park caretakers and everyone commented on how, um, "well fed" the cats are.
Posted 28 November 2006 - 10:47 AM
The ferals are also getting their winter coats now. Mine look plumper than normal, because of that.
The other thing is that maybe someone else is feeding them too! My ferals get the food I put out and wonderful scraps from a neighbor. When we move, the ferals are going with me (if they are good boys and let me trap them again), they will miss his scraps!
Posted 29 November 2006 - 12:02 AM
Guess who I still haven't seen since Sat. pm and it is driving me nuts - Mama is still AWOL. I wish she would at least do a drive by to let me know she was ok. Neurosis: Is she hurt, is she dead, is she at the animal control next on the list to PTS. Funny, I don't worry as much when I am gone and she is out....... Joyce
Posted 01 December 2006 - 07:30 PM
0 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users