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Midnight Pratt, RB 9-2-2005


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Laura imom  
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   Midnight Pratt, RB 9-2-2005

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Diagnosis: Chronic Renal Failure
Estimated amount needed: $70 per month
Case worker: Laura

Midnight Pratt is our newest CRF PIN. Please visit his PIN page and see his gorgeous picture, he is a beautiful 17 year old black cat. Midnight's Dad has recently become unemployed and his Mom is disabled, they are in need of some help with Midnight's expenses.

Midnight needs a sponsorship(s) of $70. per month to cover the necessary medications, vet visits and fluids. If you would like to sponsor Midnight, please contact Barb at mailto:treasurer@imom.org. Individual donations can be made here "donations", please specify CRF-Midnight Pratt. When making your donation, please consider a small donation to our Operating Fund to help pay processing charges and other business expenses.


Thank you,

Laura~IMOM


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Well isn't Midnight the handsome man!


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We are so close. Many years ago when I yawned he would stick his head almost in my mouth just about it would annoy me later it...turned out he can tell me when my blood sugar is high...I can come in sad and he knows and head butts me and lays by me quietly looking at me with concern...
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MIdnight is also a very special helper, no only does he cheer his mum up, but he alerts he to her blood sugar levels as well.

Lets get this special guy some special Angel15.gif Angel15.gif  to help him.


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LynnR0
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(6/23/05 8:41 pm)
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Welcome to Midnight and his family! We look forward to hearing all about Midnight!
Come on Angels.....just look at this handsome boy! Who doesnt just LOVE a catinmoon.gif !
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(6/23/05 8:41 pm)
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catinmoon.gif Hi I am Midnight's mom and I am so touched by the kindness and helpful people at IMOM as well as fellow posters with furkids in need...and well lol non furkids. I am indeed a proud mommy to this very special kitty. Linda yes he lets me know when my blood sugar is up and this morning I was just kind of waking and saw him leap from the floor OVER me...no easy feat...never touched me....to lay by my side in the middle of the bed. To many kitties that's not a big deal but he has lost a lot of muscle mass and seems so slow. About a month ago he was NOT even wanting to sleep with us...kind of kitty hiding..you know when pets are sick how they do..Then to see him remember NOT to step on me...my cats we taught to ask as kittens......wow I was touched...He is a little senile..the vet said dementia...because he potties in bed ...so we have the bed made lol with a matress pad over us...Only we would do something so whacky....but he has slept with me all his life and will until he runs at the bridge...Thank you ALL so much for the support and help with him and ...I am beyond words at how my heart has been touched by such selflessness by all the people who support this cause, by the volunteers and by those who give us a shoulder...thank you all... thanks3.gif

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Aw Lynn thank you lol we picked the same kitty pic..how cute...He is a doll cat and still smooth as silk...mostly I love his gentle nature..If he were a human he would be like Jimmy Stewart....his roles and heck even his persona was always so kind, good and gentle. AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THE WARM WELCOME

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You wrote in the FAQ section:

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"I am new and read some pretty sad posts and wish I could reply within someone else's thread but don't want to do anything wrong....Please know my thoughts and prayers, well wishes and white light go out to call of the people and pets on this site "
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As far as I know, you are permitted to offer your support to other PIN's. Care and concern is a good thing on this forum!

Laura (or anyone who knows?), am I correct in saying this?
~Lynn & Hope  rose.gif


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As far as I know, you are permitted to offer your support to other PIN's. Care and concern is a good thing on this forum!
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Absolutely!! We encourage everyone to be a part of our entire community  catinmoon.gif

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MidnightsMommy
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thanks3.gif catinmoon.gif thanks3.gif Looks like we may be due for a heatwave..I dread that....I have A/C but in case it breaks I fear he will dehydrate in spite of Sub Q fluids...I worry a lot so ignore me lol.....
If anyone happens to know..how does one know their cat feels squishy?

I am semi soon to bed but just took a shower and on my way down the hall saw a black FLASH no exaggeration..I yelled out to my husband...was that...and was cut off with..that was Midnight. Poor guy ran like a madcat thinking we were gonna snuggle in bed (that is when I can spend the most time with him not sticking him with needles or shoving pills in his face...) and um I cut a fast left and I am sure his face fell...he was waiting outside the bathroom door when I was done.

Goodnight all from me and Midnight
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Oh how sweet! This just brought a big smile to my face! Midnight sure sounds like an absolute love! (WOW, hes got looks AND personality!)  wink.gif

Hope you and catinmoon.gif have a good day!

ps - Do you have a name too? Havent seen that part of the equation yet  IPB Image

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MidnightsMommy
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Lmao oddly Lynn my mom didn't name me Midnightsmommy...or even labby hehe.....my name is Sandy...sorry I am so use to being this one's mom or that ones mom I forget I have a name,,,Many years ago I went to a rescue groups party with my rescued Golden and I was all weekend called Duke;s mom. I would hear..OMG that's Dukes mom...lol...I am so use to it.

Thanks on Midnight he is one smooth dude really and truly personality plus. When my dad was still alive and going through Hospice...he was at my house and Midnight was the only cat ..who never stepped on dad..he knew he was sick and sore and would lay at his feet or on the back of his chair....Now my other cats lol they were not so easy on dad. One was named after dad and that one kinda vexed dad a bit laugh.gif I will be back on later ..THANKS again for all the love towards Midnight...HE sends purrs to all

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Well tonight we got some nice quality time..that is rare it seems..We watched a movie with Nick Cage in it....a friends flick called I think National Treasure..a really good movie...Midnight got to lay on me for wow...well over 2 hours being petted and kissed....he headbutts my chin now and then or arm.....then my other cat wanted to get up and he did his Alpha cat deal where he just sits up and lifts one paw...never moves it and she left. She could knock him down with her breath he is so fragile IMO but ...nah he demands respect....and gets it..He is just so cute..I wish others could see the very mellow nature he has kittydrinking.gif . He ate a fair amount today but I wish he would eat more. He needs to gain weight....maybe some ice cream as it is so hot here..  1icecream.gif

Midnight sends purrs and heatbutts to all  catinmoon.gif

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Linda IMOM  
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(6/25/05 5:51 am)
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Just checking on Midnight, give him a snuggle for me.
Collie Hugs - Linda aka ellgee

Please click below to visit my furbabies
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Please visit Monty's memorial page
www.svcsr.org/notforgot/monty.htm

Although I can't seem to make this "clickable" heres Monty's IMOM forum when he was a PINkid
http://p088.ezboard.com/fimomcommunityfrm3...opicID=88.topic

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MidnightsMommy
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Hi Linda and thank you for asking...So far today..another hot one...Midnight has layed by an A/C vent and he did for him eat a lot..but he is losing muscle mass :*( that scares me.,...I keep trying to get him to eat a lot more....he may need potassium I am gonna ask my vet this coming week...He did potty on the bed this a.m with US IN IT lol thank God I learned the tricks I did by the wonderful people on the crf.group ..I have a mattress pad..waterproof..over and under all bedding so we all stay dry and if he leaks..I get up and pick that up ..wash it and go on...I give him subq Ringers and also oral meds..Tapazole and liquid meds to help his bowels...Laculose...and Pepcid A/C when needed for his tummy so on days like today I dont have anything CUTE..*YET* to post on him cause all I have done is tend to his medical needs and clean up...I make extra ice cause he likes ice in his water ..which is so much like me cause I love iced tea...maybe he learned that lol...I will give him credit..he is so good about the needles and meds..he just sits or lays and lets me do it...I love this guy and almost 18 years together....well... biggrin.gif

BTW...I meant to tell you your dogs...way pretty


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I think the fact the he likes ice in his water is pretty darn cute! biggrin.gif He sounds like he has oodles of character  blcat_sm.gif

When does Midnight turn 18? I had my cat Kitty for 18 years before she went to the bridge at about 20 years of age. We guessed she was 20, as she was at least 2 years old when she found us biggrin.gif

I hope you and Midnight have many more years of sipping iced beverages togther.. EMOTITWOCATS.gif
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catinmoon.gif AWWW thank you Laura....He will be 18 on Oct 10 what is odd is my birthday is Nov 10th....my dad's was Jan 10....10 is a lucky number here...I never thought cats could live as long as our furkids have...Shows you what TLC does...Your kitty that went to the bridge..at 20 that is an accomplishment...and it sez a lot about your love of animals

Midnight ate like a little black piggie today... catinmoon.gif THAT is good cause for a while he was not eating well even baby food...His back leg area and hip area are way thin now in 1 month and I was told he is getting anemic maybe cause he is eating cat litter....Last night....I got an idea after I read your post and I made with very crushed ice...a mix of ice and cat food...he ate it like a maniac which is way cool as he got both food and liquids in him...a must for him in this heatwave...it may have helped pick him up so now on once or twice a week I will make him kitty snow cones

I love him so....We laid on the sofa for a while tonight and he mostly slept but now and then he would open his eyes just a slit...and look at me....I may have missed some cause my eyes were closed now and then..but a few times we opened them at the same time....when we did that he would relax even more on me and sleep on..

heart.gif  butterfly.gif I also carried him to our big window and let him look out he saw a bird and perked up a bit..you know...those ears how they get taller and...then a car...he was sooooo funny and having fun..I don't think he has a lot of energy to be standing at that window alone ...so we hunted birds ...in my arms....

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thanks3.gif   blcat_sm.gif   catinmoon.gif   thanks3.gif EMOTITWOCATS.gif turtle.gif dog_yellow.gif happydance.gif rose.gif broken_heart.gif pawprint.gif A HUGE THANK YOU TO MY DEAR FRIEND CAROLE who has generously offered to help me with a donation. You Carole have a heart of gold and I am just so grateful..I am beyond words....ME YES speechless lol...(lol after what 2 hours on the phone haha) ...awww thank you for the help. I will be emailing you.

I STILL need sponsers so please if someone can help us please do as I do not have one and need help with the monthly meds and fluids and so on....WE appreciate any help you can give.
I love my Midnight and want to keep him as well as I can till my husband gets a job that can cover our expenses....
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Hi all, last night HUBBY hooked an old baby gate up so we could have a nights sleep without any kitties in bed and no pee issues...Well night one and hahah no way EVEN MIDNIGHT jumped it....we were shocked he was able to do that its maybe 2 or 3 feet high..he ran into bed and laid next to me..I had felt like such a traitor and it was good to snuggle again...Hubby looked at his face and kissed me and then Midnights head..I said whats that for and he said he just looks so content..I love him so much. We both do..Today was VERY hot here I saw a sign that said 96 if it was right we must have been in the 100 plus heat index so we made sure it was dark and cool in the house with lots of ice water all over and by vents to keep it cool...Midnight ate OK today....Yesterday he ate so good..its so up and down with CRF cats....It must have taken a LOT of energy for that cat to jump that fence as his legs are so weak and odd in the back......He is beyond cute   blcat_sm.gif butterfly.gif

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Awww Sandy, Midnight was determined to be by you guys!
Its SO evident how much Midnight is loved, isnt it?
Come on  Angel15.gif , Sandy really needs our help to keep her little buddy well. Can you help with ANY amount? Multiple donors are always welcomed  wink.gif
Sandy, try to get some pics posted....we just LOVE to see pics!
~Lynn & Hope  rose.gif

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Victoria CIC
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Sandy,

We are delighted to read about your wonderful cat, Midnight and would be interested in sponsoring Midnight for $20/month with a Mesa Grant through Cats in Crisis Inc. We'd like to do so in honor of our beloved Mesa (another black beauty) who passed away from renal failure almost two years ago.

If you are interested in us sponsoring Midnight, we would need you to fill out our online application available at: www.catsincrisis.org/policies.htmlThe link to the financial aid application is at the bottom of this page. We would also need the veterinary estimate and proof of income you sent IMOM before we can make an approval.

You are a truly wonderful caregiver to Midnight and we are delighted to read about your sweet cat.

If you have any questions about applying, please feel free to email me directly at: vhopkins@catsincrisis.org

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Ohhh Lynn lol now you did it ...Let me figure out how to post a picture and your will see lol no doubt what will end up being a cat brag book by the time I am done....THANK you for helping me and Midnight....you're one of those angels always there helping us on....Now to figure this out...

Before I do that I will update you all on our evening...Oh My....we had huge storms and the power blew....I went in torrential rains to the garage and got some old camping lanerns..I have a well so no electric no water...so I put buckets out to flush and came in..I lit some candles and called the power company...I do not know how but Midnight knew I was laying on the sofa in the dark ..well by candlelight and a radio with batteries and he came in and layed on me..haha he is so sweet..It felt like we were camping. When my husband came home from his part time job...we did Midnight's sun q fluids by camping light..what a trip lol...but kinda fun..we have power now..but now

I want to find the tent and see if I missed out on camping with my kittie all these years..I bet he would be fine with it. I AM glad we have power again cause no a/c and he would dehydrate maybe fast..It was actually kinda fun... happydance.gif

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happydance.gif  happydance.gif happydance.gif  OMG YES Victoria...YES thank you so much..I ran to your site fast and will be emailing you soon but I am stunned and blessed to be considered for the Mesa (after table or city?) Fund..I took the liberty of going to Mesa's page..the reason and what a beautiful black cat...Mesa reminds me of my friend's cat that too went to the bridge RailRoad...she was a RR cop and saved him as a kitten...I am touched that you would consider us and am just stunned....and for Mesa's grant...that makes it so much more special. Compliments from you on how I am a good cat caregiver makes me feel like an American Idol contestant who just received such high praise from Celine Dion..AWW  

I WILL BE EMAILING YOU  thanks3.gif


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This last Christmas..looks like a Charlie Brown Christmas tree I know and the gifts were all for the furkids but note Midnight is...crawling over the gate my grandpa gave me years ago..to get to Cosmic Catnip his favorite vice   laugh.gif

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Sandy,

Mesa was named after the city...we lived in Colorado and thats where we adopted him (actually Fort Collins, but we liked the name Mesa for some reason. It just "fit"). Although later in life I wish I had named him Sunshine...he was so gentle and brought so much laughter into our lives and had such a sunny personality.

We've been following your post and are touched by the relationship you have with Midnight. We'll be on the lookout for your application and are excited to be able to help with a grant. I'll be out of the office all day doing wildlife rehab, so if you send the application today, I won't be able to get to it until tonight, so don't worry if you don't hear from me right away.

I love LOVE the picture of Midnight as a tiny kitten. How adorable!  stripekitty.gif

Hugs to Midnight!



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Linda IMOM  
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Is midnight sitting in a CHAIR ??? Too cute!


Collie Hugs - Linda aka ellgee

Please click below to visit my furbabies
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Please visit Monty's memorial page
www.svcsr.org/notforgot/monty.htm

Although I can't seem to make this "clickable" heres Monty's IMOM forum when he was a PINkid
http://p088.ezboard.com/fimomcommunityfrm3...opicID=88.topic

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LynnR0
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It IS a chair! I hadnt noticed that when I first looked at the pics!
Sandy, thanks for sharing Midnights photos with us, he is adorable!
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Hi Sandy -- I haven't posted before but have been enjoying the stories about Midnight. Jacki's black cat Magic was her inspiration to start IMOM, so black cats are pretty special around here.  catinmoon.gif

I volunteer at an SPCA, doing cat rescue, and it's really refreshing to "meet" people like you and your husband who stay committed to their pets for the pet's entire lifetime...... even through pee on the bed! dog.gif  So many people dump a pet the first time it does the least little thing "wrong" -- and often it wasn't even the animal's fault. We had a cat returned because he was tripping the woman's security system. I wanted to say, "So your **** security system is more important to you than your cat??" IPB Image

Anyway..... I wanted to point you to a great resource for info on CRF, in case you don't already know about it: http://www.felinecrf.org/. Usually Lynn sends new folks there -- Lynn, you're slacking!! laugh.gif It sounds like Midnight is a dream patient in terms of tolerating the subQ fluids, but if you have any questions about his bloodwork or symptoms, ask here (as well as talking to your vet, of course!) Lynn always has good info, and there are some other experienced CRF moms on the forum.

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Midnight is adorable! Don't worry about posting too much, we love to hear your stories - keep them coming!

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Stories *and* photos!  smile.gif

Sandy, if you want to see some adorable kittens, go to the General Discussion part of the forum and click on the thread called "Annie's kittens."

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LOL Kim....Nope, Sandy is a member of the Yahoo! Feline CRF Support Group already, so she has that link! Kim....you know me better then that! wink.gif Thats my CRF "Bible"!
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I shoulda known.......  laugh.gif


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Hi San:

Midnight is so beautiful. My beloved "Miss Kitty" (who you knew about) was 22 years old last year. She had kidney failure and I finally had to let her go. She was my constant companion for all those years - I still have not been able to adopt another kitty cat. In time I'm sure I will.

My sister found Miss Kitty - abandoned - and had named her Midnight. I adopted her immediately (1982) and re-named her Miss Kitty.

Thank you for all you are doing for your beloved animals, and for all you have done for me with regards to the Rimadyl situation. I will be in touch very soon.


Jean
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donna
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awww Sandy.. I know what you are going through. We had two 18 yr old sisters who died a month apart from the same thing. We did give them some time however with all the proper treatment. Hopefully you will have Midnight around for a long time yet!!

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Victoria I am hoping to get that to you tomorrow if I can get help with faxing it. I have emailed you on that and thank you so much for your help ..It is we who are honored to be considered for your grant  waycool.gif

Thank you on Midnight's pictures he is a doll...and that baby pic..well gang I have more but have to spread them out as not to overload the site.....Again   thanks3.gif blcat_sm.gif

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Lmao yes Linda..that is a chair  thanks3.gif


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Lynn lol yes you and Linda spotted it..it's a chair..I never made him sit in the corner on it but laugh.gif Actually, I had just gotten that it was for small plants..had a hole in the middle and a small tin cup to put a TINY plant in..as midnight was always around I took a photo opportunity  
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Hi Kim and thanks for the info and the high praise..I actually met someone below in my golden retrieve rescue days...I would read stories of people who dumped a GR cause they were OLD or going on a trip....how can they..We adopted a very abused GR who was very well known because of the abuse he had PRIOR to us....  dog_yellow.gif I will always miss Duke we had him 6 years...Its sad to see people do any less than stick with a pet all their life.

I am HIGHLY allergic to cats and live on Allegra but would NEVER dump them or even give them to a good home..they are my kids....till death do us part and hubby would go before them
Thank you also on the CRF site but yes I found that about 6 weeks ago when hubby was umm hahaha peed on in bed and he was going to make me sleep without Midnight....I was in a panic and to this day cannot figure out how I found the group but they rock ad have helped me so much...also gave me tips on how to save my house from kitty pee..and my bed....Now we need potty proof pj's  tongue.gif

Thank you for the work you do..I know its not easy..I would be in tears a lot....Youre an angel as are all these people in here....

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When not in a crisis myself on my eyes and all the other hard issues this year has brought to me....you know the animals they always come first to me. On the Rimadyl issue , you were the one who did all the work...I was small small copilot...You are a saint in the animal world. Jean you REALLY are.  

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Donna...first to Sam..I am so sad he passed to the bridge.,.I know you miss him so much dog_yellow.gif May he run free with Miss Kitty and Duke and MY Spooky the white and carmel colored kitty above who passed away on May 26th this year.

Secondly I think I recall you mentioning way back one cat..was it..Annie? I did not know they had that but back then I didnt know what CRF was at all. How time teaches us lessons we do not want to know. Thank you for coming to post and the ear I appreciate it...Kiss Sara for me and again thank you  Angel15.gif
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IPB Image LMAO Hey Kim....I found these want one
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Midnight sends some purrs and no pee...I got it this a.m lol..I slept with my hand under his tail......um not so smart..lol

He never got up just leaked..I think the vet very soon to see if a UTI in a months time has developed

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Juli hi good to see you..thanks on his pictures...I have a few more baby ones..but will spread them all out....suspense..lol

Today so far I woke to Midnight sleeping and some pee leaked out of him..well a lot in my hand which was under him. I think because he has been worse and worse on the boxes..that I may have to take him to the vet again???? I had a urine and blood work done a month ago but....he laid in it till I woke up and changed the matress pad we keep OVER the bedding so he can sleep with us.....not normal for a cat to LAY in it...I will write Laura on getting him in..may be just dementia I dont know....so I then..well after we all slept more lol...I used the stuff to clean him its like a foam for cats so they do not have to go into water.....cause kitties like to be so clean...I wanted to get in here early cause we have had off and on power outtages from huge storms....otherwise he ate well and was a good kitty as always

I do want to thank my vets ..Dr R and Dr J AND STAFF , they have been so good over the year on our bills and calls and the faxes and time they spend on us. One of the techs almost cried when I took Midnight in last cause she thought he was gonna be PTS...she kissed his head ..and another one of the staff has been so cool about faxing my stuff and just being there for us and great on everything with our furkids..the staff and docs...rock and are appreciated
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Sandy, love the HazMat suit! But wait...... do you think that nylon material attracts cat hair? You know you're a Crazy Cat Lady when you flip through catalogs and automatically reject "fleece" clothing because it's a magnet for cat hair.  biggrin.gif

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Lmao Kim I always have fur all over me. Don't matter what kind of material I look like a bum..I can JUST change and Walk out the door and have someone at the store or somthing..say..."I see you have pets " ROTFLMAO makes me wanna smack them one.....we are crazy cat ladys..I have a dog and  turtle.gif too

On a serious note I am kinda worried on Midnights issue we will see this week....lets hope

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Sandy,

We're happy to help! Midnight is such a wonderful cat and its obvious how much you love your special kitty!

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Sandy,

Have you tried diapers for Midnight?

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Puppy piddle pads also work great, if Midnight tends to settle himself in certain spots where you could put down some pads.

Sandy, you may already know this, so please don't take offense if you do, but make sure to keep Midnight's back end and legs clean because the urine can scald his skin.

By the way, I brought a hamper full of clean clothes up from the basement the other day, but it never made it all the way upstairs to get put away. You guessed it -- several of my cats have been sleeping in the hamper (gee, thanks, mom!!). So I guess I'll be washing those clothes again.  biggrin.gif

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Wow Midnight, you have quite the thread going here...all these crazy cat ladies coming up with ideas for special pajamas! I thought I was on Pizza's thread, but I am glad I clicked on yours. I think I will try to branch out a little more thanks to you. I didn't know if I could keep up with all the furbabes on the site, but why not stop in once in awhile...no offense to Pizza...I love Mike and Pizza too, but you are wonderful as well...and I know it will be fun meeting other kitties with CRF. Have a good one Midnight, and mom!   whitekitty.gif





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Uh oh, Pizza got moved, which is probably why I clicked on your thread Midnight. Anyway, I'll find Pizza's thread, but am still really glad I read yours, and am going to, like I said, branch out a little more, beyond acute cases. Maybe I was afraid to get attached, but I see from your thread, how sweet it is to get to know you.    stripekitty.gif

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stripekitty.gif   Jacki no not yet..I wasn't sure if he would leave them on and if the other pets would hassle him..May be worth a try..how good are they? I have those pads..cannot recall the name but when in the hospital or a nursing home the sick people lay on them it protects them and the bed...its like a thin diaper but one that just lays flat...It may come to that. I know to cut a tail hole but any other tips if we have to move to that? AND THANKS

Kim lol you're a trouble maker I went to the kitten site you told me of....I am glad I am too poor right now cause I would have taken some....the orange one grabbed me..Kim just toss the clothes in the dryer with a damp wash cloth you'll be full of fur in 10 minutes or less anyhow...or train them to do the wash lol

I did not know on the urine scalding their legs ...but he is always on like a pad or a matress pad that is waterproof so it doesnt stay on him or pool scarecat.jpg but thank you for the info thats kinda scary
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blcat_sm.gif  catinmoon.gif  scarecat.jpg OHHH Welcome to our thread Mareanteasin Midnight sends a 21 meow salute...to you and yours...we are way glad you found us but not too happy as to why..I hope Pizza is OK.....I can pretty well keep up with the CRF cats in here...well if its just one page..I will have to look now...oh oh.... I tried the Diabetic pets cause I am diabetic and well could be of help but lost the people I posted to duh lol..Huge board..so many sick pets its sad....I could not work here at all I give these folks credit it has to be hard.

Midnight will be seeing the vet next week for maybe a UTI or? I don't know but something is wrong.

Hey I have seen you around but do not know if you have a pet or had one on this site???? We are so glad to have you on here. thanks3.gif  
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magicmoon.gif Victoria I am gonna write you in a little while. I have news..Oh I would be lost without these pads and the waterproof matress pads...I use to do HOURS of wash a day now it's MUCH less...I too am praying its a UTI so he can get on some antibiotics and then maybe feel some better. He eats and runs to food and me for bed but otherwise he is always just laying and sleeping and potty is all in wrong spots..unless we carry him at the RIGHT moment to his boxes...

Last night while he was sleeping I was having a bad night sleep wise waking every half hour and I looked at him..all rolled up next to be he looked sooooo small and at peace but so tiny when he sleeps like that..I hated to wake him to pee but 3 1/2 hrs had passed and he was due..if we time all things right we avoid accidents..so..hahaha I woke hubby up and said...do you think Midnight needs to potty he looks so at peace....to people married a while that translates to...get up and take him I do not want to be the one to wake the cat......So hubby did and he did pee a river..he had been sound asleep....then we all went to bed again.

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We have been fully sponsered

I was out till late for me and when I got in I fed the pets and washed the floor of pee and some odds and ends..then I came to email and Laura my caseworker in imom had written me that we have been SPONSERED IN FULL

I cannot tell you how much this means to us and my kitty..It takes a huge burden off my back to not have to worry about his needs. Next Monday..well the 11th I go for more eye stuff to maybe save my sight and have a lot of worries on my mind..THIS takes a huge burden off me. I am so grateful for whomever has taken the time to help us in any way and to help carry this weight...You are so kind hearted. I can never find the words to come close to thanking you all....but I am so deeply touched by all those who have helped us

Thank you doesn't cover it but I do thank you and I do belive like that song sez.....I believe there are angels among us

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I have no experience with using them for cats but our Treasurer, Barb, has lots of experience. She had a kitty who had to wear them. If you write to her I just know she will be happy to tell you what kind she used - and what size. Her email is treasurer@imom.org

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Jacki Thank you I will write her...thanks..I am sorry on the delay..I was in the shower and was still signed in..i will write her shortly..I have a lot of email to catch up on but am way happy whitekitty.gif  Angel15.gif

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GREAT NEWS about being fully sponsored!!

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Precious is over on Happy Endings....she sends Chihuahua kisses and we both send our congratulations on your full sponsorship!

I know what you mean about the hubby thing, and middle of the night care! You are a lucky woman...he gets up and does his parenting too!    pp_animal_564.gif

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Hi! I just popped in this forum-I generally don't mingle too much (just like at parties-I find the people I know and stay there) but have really enjoyed reading about Midnight! I LOVE that picture of him in the tiny rocking chair. What a cutie.

So, he's a Jimmy Stewart-isn't that neat! That's a good idea-what celebrity would your pet be? A good general discussion topic for sure!

I have a PIN who hangs around in Happy Endings with Marea's Precious. Her name is Annalise  pp_animal_362.gif  Sounds like she has somethings in common with your Duke. (and we recently determined she is probably part wolf smile.gif )

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Awww man I was just over at Happy Endings and saw precious and that hernia..OMG the poor baby I am so happy all is WELL now and she now has a happy life. That hernia OMG ..I have to read your thread its huge but will in time. Midnight and I both thank you for the congrats on the sponsership in full.



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Jean Thanks for dropping by..I think I have seen you in the new emoticon area or somewhere..I went and saw Annalise,what a pretty name its from a song or something and she is pretty but what a sad story on her..OMG the stuff that I am filling in the blanks on what sick people..Thank God shes ok now and had a happy ending...Keep comming over..we enjoy the company and I am like you in real life I tend to stick to a small group but can do huge crowds. Thank you and I am glad you liked the pics..I will add one tonight cause I am sooo tired and cannot THINK...

Yes Jimmy easy and maybe we should do a topic in that general area lol I can find a star for all my kids


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Happy 4th of July to all of you

Precious if you keep sending those kisses my lab may have to send some back dog_yellow.gif lol


Hey all Midnight's appetite remains up but his potty issues continue he will be seeing the vet this week.,..my GUESS is Wedsday but I need to call and they are closed today
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We made an appointment for Midnight to see his vet on Friday...I hope it is just a UTI then he can feel some better..He eats well and sleeps very good  biggrin.gif but he seems weak in the back end..walking at times..he runs well and can still jump up....but his walk is off like a wobble...

Tonight I did his sub q and he was sooooo sweet he laid down AFTER (he sat nice all durring) and I rubbed his ears for him, he likes that ..its odd but they get cold and I rub then between two fingers....we sat and watched David Letterman doing that...he started to fall sleep to his ear rub..I wish I had a video of it..it was too cute

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I wonder if Midnight's wobbles could be a sign that he has a touch of arthritis in his back legs? Might be something to ask your vet about.

Midnight sounds like a very calm patient for his fluids. What a sweetheart!  heart.gif I can just imagine him getting sleeping during ear rubs. We too have a black cat who LOVES ear rubs... stripekitty.gif


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Hi Victoria, thanks me too on his appointment ..thank you ALL for the support..It will be so nice even if bad news to know where we are at with him now.I will ask my vet on the arthritis but he seems to have sported this walk since May...maybe when Spooky died....maybe I am just thinking that and didnt notice it
Victoria..YES he is oddly so good about the sub q..it is like he doesnt know he has a needle in his back....I think maybe 3 times he has tried to walk off..not sneaky but maybe bored or something....Mostly he just sits or lays. ..I am SO lucky he is good about it as Spooky had HCM for years and last maybe 2 weeks of his life got sub q...man he didnt like it turned and screamed and stuff..Maybe he knew something we didnt..But Night' man he is soooo laid back and easy on all..He is one SMOOTH BLACK CAT   magicmoon.gif
Thanks for stopping by I know how busy you must be I find it nice and heartwarming that you take the time to come by and talk with us..Midnight sends you many purrs and headbutts

OK all...ideas....how do I keep one cat fom getting fat? Midnight has to eat all he can....and can even eat a special diet but....but Kiki eats so much that he looks like a tubby tabby ..soon I will have special food Lucille the cat who went to the bridge is sendiing us for kidneys and all and Kiki can't eat that...how do you all feed pets with different diets? My dog is not allowed IN the kitchen and eats just where it goes from dinningroom to Kitchen so he is never an issue but....well kiki lol IPB Image

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Just wanted to wish you good luck tomorrow! luck.gif I hope everything goes well at Midnights vet visit. How is he at the vet? Being such a "smooth fella", I'm guessing he's a good boy, and doesn't do this scarecat.jpg , does he?  biggrin.gif

One out of my six cats needs to lose a little weight, I have no idea how to do it, I feed my guys all together. I'll be watching Midnight's thread to see if you get any good advice stripekitty.gif

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Laura you have him pegged correctly...he is very mild at the vets..hates the ride. The only thing he does is sometimes he will not come out of his carrier and then he has to be shaken out ...Sometimes too he will bury his head into me....but thats it...Youre so right he is smooth cool.gif.I think I am more tense that he is..sad but true lol...A worried cat mommy....

Thank you....he sends loud purrs to all ...The food question is gonna be intresting because my kids will NOT eat without one another...sigh.....I think when Midnight hears the others chewing it makes him more intrested in food..

We really appreciate the support....I will let you all know..the appt is at 4 :16 eastern time so it will be late in the day till I am on the puter

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Sandy,

Its very important that you ask your vet's advice on how to approach Kiki losing weight. Overweight cats should not lose weight quickly because this can induce liver disease in cats and is a serious concern. There are special diets for cats with weight concerns, some of them prescription diets that your vet's office might offer. There are other weight control foods out there that are less expensive, but I would recommend getting a list of ones your vet recommends and talking to her/him about a weight loss plan for your cat. Maybe you could bring Kiki in tomorrow and get a weight and talk briefly with your vet about this at the same time you are doing Midnight's visit?

As far as how to feed multiple cats who are on different diets...I have to deal with this daily at home with 6 cats. I would recommend not "free feeding" Kiki....many cats, when offered food all day long, will overeat and often times gorge themselves to the point of being sick. If possible, its a good idea to break the total amount of food you should be feeding into at least two smaller feedings throughout the day. We feed our cats three times a day and have to put Patch in the bathroom to eat because he will eat quickly and then go around and eat everyone else's food. Every cat has their own bowl of food. Actualy, we use salad plates set on top of overturned cat food bowls. Having the cats chase the food around on plates has also helped with eating too fast and then throwing up. We also have to supervise our other cats to make sure they don't wander over and eat Indy's special renal food. Its a bit of a hassle, but its worked out well for us. Its also important that Kiki have an opportunity to exercize daily. Many cats will become "couch potatoes"...and may need some prompting to play daily. Even something as inexpensive as ping pong balls that you toss around may promt some kitty fun! There's no need for expensive store bought toys, there are plenty of things around the house your cats may find interesting...Crumpled up pieces of paper...toilet paper tubes...cats will even go nuts for empty brown paper bags from the grocery store. I hope these recommendations help. Please let us know how tomorrow's visit goes!

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It is completely true that overweight cats have to be extremely careful when losing weight...has to be a slow, controlled process.

When I catsit, I have to feed each cat in different rooms, and they don't graze all day, except that I can give treats to the skinny one, and the heavy one, I can give one treat to, but that is it...both are on different vet recommended diets, but if they were not fed separately, one would waste away, and the other would plump out beyond belief. It is certainly worth the trouble.

Same with my dogs, who all have different needs. With them, 2 eat in their crates willingly, one eats in the bathroom, one in the bedroom, and one in the kitchen. In their case, I can put them all out for the morning dog.gif, get the meals ready, place them in their strategic locations, and basically, the dogs now know which area is theirs, and go right to it. It is funny, the whole house is full of crunching sounds (except for Precious who gets a little dry, and a little gravy, so she has a mushing sound). They can all have a low-fat biscuit throughout the day, and of course teeth-cleaning chews.

Now to get all their teeth brushed...that is going to be the next undertaking...we don't have that as a routine yet, but are working toward it!

The importance of good gums, and teeth can't be underestimated in any animal, since bacteria can travel from the gums to the heart and various internal organs.

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Thanks on the help with weight issues I will address that later...I think I can work it out maybe with seperate feedihgs...but I wanna post on the vet visit and then go cry


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Midnights way bad...he will be supported with same fluids and all but he is so suddenly anemic that he is at 50% on his rbc's and that is untreatable WITH the galloping heart and also the liver failure and CRF ..He has multiple system failures...which we kinda knew but found out today..As his mom I had noticed his heart racing a lot and he is on the max you can be on on Tapazole...oh he is HT has been for ages but lately his heart...
Vet said when he doesnt eat, or vomits or acts weirder (he said the pooping and peeing on hubby are part of that) he gave me examples its time to PTS..I kinda knew he had mega declined since Spooky passed away a little over a month ago...I had had blood work on Midnight done in May and man he is worse I was right.......I think it will just be weeks...I really am thankful I was able to take him to the vet to see his bloodwork so I do not sit like a dummy and miss when its time to PTS....He had a lot of bloodwork today when the vet saw his back legs and heard his heart,..I will get the electrolytes later or so not today...but its bad he will be gone semi soon. I kinda knew it had to be coming I told Laura this...I have more but need to just go be alone and all..I know you all understand..I will be back later....THANK YOU to all who have helped me with him in words and prayers and also in donations and sponsership....We have some time don't get me wrong but I do not think much.   magicmoon.gif


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Aw, Sandy, I'm sorry. Sounds like you got hit with a ton of bricks today. broken_heart.gif It's so difficult when you're juggling several conditions at once, and yes, sometimes the animal reaches a point where all systems are shutting down. But I wondered if your vet mentioned Epogen as an option for battling the anemia? If Epogen is too risky because of the other things going on, how about a blood transfusion to at least make him more comfortable? I'm guessing that Midnight's heart rate is high because of the anemia moreso than the hyper-T. Hopefully Lynn will be along with some thoughts/suggestions. If you have Midnight's bloodwork results and could post them, that would help.

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I'm so sorry to hear the vet visit didn't have the outcome you and we had all hoped for...and I'm truly sorry and sad to hear that sweet Midnight has advanced anemia. They're sure they can't treat it at all?

Please know you are doing everything you can to help Midnight and its deeply appreciated by him, and by all the fellow cat lovers out there following your posts so closely. We know how very tough CRF is and I'm truly hoping that things will become easier for you both. I hold hope that Midnight will improve, but also know that as your dear friend of so many years, he will let you know when its his time to earn his angel wings. Until then, please don't let worrying about the future use up your todays...enjoy every minute you have with your beautiful cat and take one day at a time. You're a very dear friend to Midnight and I know he feels immense love every day. What greater gift is there than that? I"m thinking of you both and sending positive thoughts and prayers...

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Sandy, I'm really sorry you had a not so good vet visit and that Midnight is not doing as well as hoped. I had some of the same thoughts as Kim. Did your vet mention Epogen for the anemia? Also, can you post his numbers? Maybe there is something that we can pick up on that will help your dear boy.

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Sandy, can you please post Midnights lab results along w/the labs reference ranges? I also *highly* suggest you do this over at the CRF board.
Most important are:
BUN, creatinine, phosphorus, potassium, calcium and HCT, AND anything else that is out of range.
Did the vet check Midnights blood pressure? The fast heartbeat *may* be caused by the anemia OR HBP.
Is Midnight on any type if iron and B vitamin supplementation? If not, Id run (not walk) to the store, buy some Pet Tinic (sold at most vets and Petco), and some Twinlabs Super B Complex and get him started *right away*. Also try feeding him some liver. Liver is the best source of iron, so if he will accept it, great!
Sandy, how is Midnight acting? Remember the saying "treat the cat, not the numbers". Some cats can be managed well with high numbers. Each kitty is an individual.
Give that handsome boy some extra kisses from us, okay?
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Sandy, I am so sorry to hear about Midnight's health problems. Lynn has some great ideas to consider to help Midnight out.

Please know that I have said a prayer for you and Midnight. We are all here for you.

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magicmoon.gif Thank you to ALL of you ..I don't have it in me right now to go post by post but all your posts mean a lot to me.

I did get a whammy today though I KNEW in my heart..but I had more than I posted before cause I wanted to get Midnights info to you all asap...My friiend from the crf boards Carole...who has helped me with things for Midnight the fund does not also sent my vet a check to pay for my cat Tiffany to see him cause she has a lump and has had it but I have had to play God for so long with the vet care..trying to guess who is worse off and take them etc...so she paid and Tiffany is having surgery the day after I have my eye surgery which is Monday...I am tense as it is and then to know she may have cancer (I suspected) and Midnights decline was confirmed is kinda overwhelming right now. I have done I think the best I can with what I knew at the time.... I did not know of CIC OR iMOM all this time..and had I.. I would not have let some things go I had to let go...I do not think many people let their house payments get behind to pay for pets and pet meds but we have..so I think I did pretty good all in all..I just wish I had gotten Tiffany in sooner ..much ..and thats my fault. I don't like the job of God.....

On the tests....in short cause I do not have them we had the vet call when he was done with them to get the cats home...I do know Midnighst liver is shot...we spoke on that as a year ago he had values at 3 times what they should be..but..in May they looked good all in normal range...but now its off one of them I cannot recall Dr Randy said shows liver damage always was but didnt show the one test and explained how that can be.....
On the HCT it was HALF of what it shold be but WAS normal a month ago...Dr said no on Bp meds and increase in Tapazole....because soooo many systems are shot for Puddy...The galloping heart is from the hyperthyoid is what I think I heard....but he is on MAX dose of med and well all in all the numbers don't matter I have seen him decline in a month major decline....he was NOT anemic a month ago....
As his mommy of 18 years not because I do not want to fight but cause I know my cat its time to still keep on what we can to keep him comfy and all but a transfusion cannot fix his liver and thyroid and so on...it would just treat the anemia short term..I do have pet tinic someone from the CRF yahoo list sent me when their beloved kitty passed on and he will get his fluids and liver maybe and tapazole and so on but with all this and 100ml sub q he was still VERY dehydrated..I know my vet I can read his face....he was very worried on Midnight. And he did tell me why no BP med and why we're not treating Midnighst anemia and so on....he took time with us.. It really is just a matter of time....God will call it we will all do our best to keep him comfy thanks to all who have supported us in CIC, imom, AND just so many people donating and then posting to help us go on....

Midnight sends big purrs and ate well and a lot tonight...I AGAIN THANK ALL OF YOU BUT AM SO TIRED AND STRESSED

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Yes Sandy, you absolutely have, without a doubt. You have done a wonderful job of caring for your fur kids under the circumstances you are in. Please don't ever feel that haven't done less than your best heart.gif

As you mentioned, you have been his "mommy" for 18 years, you know him best, I know that whatever road you choose for Midnight, it will be what is best for him. We are all here for you.......

Take care of yourself and get some good snuggle time in with your boy. And good news that he ate well tonight!! I'm sending some good energy out for Tiffany as well, hope her surgery goes well.

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Thanks Laura and all...and no we have not given up but I wanted people to know fixing one thing will not help he has multiple system failures....as I told Laura I would rather know and be ready to move when its his time than make him suffer and wait. So I know now to keep an eye out....I dont have all the right words to say what the vet said and all but he did rule out BP meds and stuff for anemia...he had good reason but I cannot say it like he did...he would and could make a lot of cash off Midnight but seemed to know too much is failing on him and doesnt want him to suffer and drag it out...I have held that cat so many days in my life I cannot count them but I noticed the day his heart started that gallop deal....I really am not giving up but I have to be honest with myself and all of you and be prepared for his leaving ..when he is called....Odd as it sounds I told my hubby when Spooky died that I had a bad feeling Midnight would lessen his grip a bit,,.they were close....I actually didnt spoil him I wanted him NOT to feel my tension , sorrow and fears tonight..so I did as always and we ran to town to get ice...for his water and just normal stuff.....after we spent some time with the cats...we let the lab out of his crate and it was his turn....and then Sub Q and so on....normal.....and he likes when I sing to him so I sang him a Dido song and rubbed his ears....I love him but hey I could do a lot to keep him crawling on but I want quality time for him and he is past that..so I give it to..God

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And though I sound like Donald Duck when I sing... to Midnight I sing the song JUST like Dido does..this is the song I sang to him tonight..well a part and he had his ears rubbed and didn't want it to end...I could tell he started to drift off to sleep....

I think this must be how he feels about all our rushing and busy work here on all of them and house...sometimes we are too busy to spend the time we want ... thats why I chose to sing him this song to let him know I KNOW catinmoon.gif

Dido - Do You Have A Little Time Lyrics

If you're feeling low and lost today
You're probably doing too much again
You spend all your hours just rushing around
Do you have a little time
Do you have a little time for me?
Slow down my love you're confusing me
If you're feeling stressed just try calling
You spend your time waiting for anyone to see
Do you have a little time
Do you have a little time for me?
If you should stop for a while
You will find me standing by
Over here at the side of your life
I'd like to hold you still, remind you of all you've missed
If you have a little time
If you have a little time that is

Why do you still run when you could walk with me
Life will pass you by when you move as quickly
What can you see when you're spinning around
Do you have a little time
Do you have a little time for me
If you should stop for a while
You will find me standing by
Over here at the side of your life
I like to hold you still, remind you of all you've missed
If you have a little time
If you have a little time that is
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((((( IPB Image  ))))) You and Midnight have been together 18 years,
i must say you have taken GREAT care of him In Midnight's eyes he has it all,and you have stood by him and loved him every step of the way. You will do what is best and you will know when enough is enough. You are a great MOM.
positive thoughts for your eye surgery Monday and for your beloved Tiffany on Tuesday. cat.gif We are here to support you

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Sandy,

I'm hoping you and Midnight will have a peaceful weekend together spending lots of quality time doing ear rubs. That song is so sweet.... heart.gif

I'm also sending lots of positive thoughts and prayers for the upcoming week....with your surgery on Monday and Tiffany's procedure on Tuesday...there is so much on your plate right now...please try to take some time to take care of yourself too.



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Thank you Victoria.....We have spent some nice time together...watching TV him in the sun. He likes the sun. He slept almost all night covered up..hubby covered him cause the vet said he cannot control his body temp and must be cold a lot.....The sun made his day so far,,,,,I took me to the beach for 2 hs....but must admit I am getting nervous about Monday....When I snuck off to the beach I put Midnight aka puddy in the window to cop some sun..he was there when I got home...so I took him potty and fed the kids...they ALL ate like big pigs....

I have to get liver maybe tonight.but I need to know do I cook it? Boil it? what?? help and thanks...I am tired and no real reason for it..I will try to post late tonight ....or early in A.M ...I know Monday I will not be on at all..well I think.
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Well tomorrow is my surgery deal...or that needle in my eye...wish me luck and many prayers

Midnight has had a good night and day he slept all night with us then sat and laid in the sun..ate well....we laid on his dads legs in the recliner too...and ran and stuff I do not mean to imply he will pass on in days but its not gonna be months I dont think......
I bought some liver but nobodys been here to let me know to cook it or not...Its um kinda gross. He tried to lay on my pillow when I was alseep but hubby moved him in case he pottied

I wrote my email/phone friend Carole and asked her IF I could call her and have her post for me or contact imom or cic in CASE I am way messed up from surgery and cannot see or type for days..

It was good to see Midnight have a good day so soon from the vets even...relaxed me a lot scarecat.jpg  whitekitty.gif EMOTITWOCATS.gif magicmoon.gif   blcat_sm.gif
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Hi Sandy, yes, cook the liver. It doesnt matter how you cook it. Boil, fry in a little butter, whatever. Hope he likes it!
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Cool thanks Lynn..I will boil it then to have some maybe juice to help him swallow...ugh I hate looking at it....lol....I also have tinic too...Youre always so helpful thank you  magicmoon.gif

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Hi Sandy,

I'm so glad to hear Midnight had a great day today. I can imagine how relaxing it is to soak up the sun. stripekitty.gif

I'm sending lots of positive thoughts and prayers for this upcoming week...you have a lot going on. I hope the eye procedure goes well and I'll be thinking of Tiffany's procedure on Tuesday as well.

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When Lady was sick, we needed to build up her red blood cells. She was a dog, but this is what I did.

Touching the stuff raw kinda grossed me out, so I pan fried it in a black skillett (for the iron), when it was cokked enough to cut up, then I would cut into strips. Some I would bake in the oven until it dried out, (I used a 200 degree oven and make jerky strips, it took a couple hours to get reaaly dried out).

When I was making Lady's food, (I cooked rice for her too), I would throw the cooked liver in the blender with about 2 and a half cup of water, so I could use that to cook the rice in.

You can probably bake the liver, then add it to the blender so it's more "cat food like". If you boil it, it cooks faster than you think, but it doesn't get a crust on it, it may blend up better that way. You can aslo add some water to it while it's blending to get the right texture. I was kinda grossed out working with it, I used calves liver, but I hear chicken livers are easier to work with. In any case, you should have an attractive liver pate' tongue.gif
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Thank you all and I am BEAT....LONG DAY....I did not see Midnight a whole lot today.....he ate a ton and was so good for his subq's....he seems perky and well not much time with him. But he has had a pretty good night....and wanted for ice water while I poured it lol

Tiffany does in the A.M ..I will let you all know...I feel bad but no food or water for her all night which means..THEM

My eyes: NO SURGERY....I posted this on my list too,,,,,
I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRAYERS AND SUPPORT ON MY EYE SURGERY AND NOW THE ONE THAT WAS TO HAPPEN TODAY. I WENT BACK AND HE SAID I CAN READ 20/40 WITH MY BAD EYE...IT WAS 20/70 SO I HAVE IMPROVED

I STILL HAVE FLUID IN THE MIDDLE OF MY LENS, WHICH MAKES MY SIGHT WAVY FROM MY BAD EYE......SO IN 1 MONTH I GO BACK AND IF I CAN SEE ANY BETTER WE WILL JUST KEEP A WATCH ON IT....OTHERWISE I GET A SHOT RIGHT INTO MY EYE OF CORTISONE..THAT MAY CURE IT OR HOLD THINGS SAME...BUT RISKY

SO PLEASE PRAY BECAUSE IF I READ AT 20/30 20/35.....I AM ON THE MEND WITHOUT NEW SURGERY OR NEEDLES IN MY EYE

THANKS FOR ALL THE PRAYERS , WHITE LIGHT AND WELL WISHES, THEY WORKED..

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Hello Midnight and Sandy,

Sorry I didn’t come earlier to say hello; things have been crazy lately. I know all what you are going through with your CRF kitty. I’ve been there myself. My sweet boy, Antares, passed away barely 2 months ago. He was diagnosed with CRF, then complications developed. Everything that could go wrong happened to him because he was at such an advanced stage in the disease. He got anemia, which required epogen/procrit injections, a regiment of iron and vitamins B. He had a seizure, which brought him to hospital for 3 part-time days of IV. Suddenly, he developed respiratory problems and was misdiagnosed with needing a blood transfusion when he fact he had fluid in his heart and in his lungs. But he recovered and did well for more than a month. My Antares went on with whooping high numbers way off the chart for months, but then one time I came home and Antares was blind. It lasted for just a few hours. The vet's conclusion was that Antares might have had a stroke; soon after Antares became unable to walk or move anything more than his head. I had to let him go. CRF is unfortunately a cruel disease, but it can be managed. Sometimes, I wish I would have known all what I know today; maybe it might have made a difference.

I think that you are doing the right thing by putting protection all over your bed and your floor; it is not the kitty’s fault if he can’t get to the box on time. Antares did pee all over himself several times when we would come back from the vet. He would pee in his carrier. Well, with all the fluid that we are giving them driving their little bladder crazy, in addition of having poor kidneys and this constant feeling of not being well, no wonder they can’t hold it.

About the wobbling walk, are you giving any potassium to Midnight? I read the thread, but I didn’t see anywhere that you mentioned what kind of medication you were giving to Midnight or maybe I missed it. Usually a lack of potassium can produce weakness in the back leg. Metabolism acidosis does that too. Some bicarbonate of sodium can help.

If you want, you can read all about Antares's struggles with CRF and its complications. I posted Antares's values along with the meds he was taking. Here is the link:

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If you need to give Epogen/Procrit to Midnight, I still have several TB seringes and needles that I could send to you. I also have a box of needles for the sq fluid. What kind are you using? what kind of food are you giving Midnight? I gave away most of the supplies to another CRF kitty, Christmas, but I still have things that Christmas didn't need.


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Sounds like you eye situation is resolving in a way so far that is a little easier than having surgery right now, though a needle in the eye...I know that would be intense! wacko.gif

Thinking of you and Midnight! whitekitty.gif

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I'm so glad you didnt have to have your eye procedure done (which sounded like it would be very uncomfortable to say the least)!

I'm also glad Midnight had a good day. I am thinking of you today and Tiffany and hoping everything is going well....

(Aline, it was very kind of you to offer some supplies to Midnight. I hope he might be able to benefit from them. Angel15.gif )

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Aww Aline I am sorry your furbaby passed. I read part of your thread and it will take me some time cause you have a lot of pages on you two....but I will catch up..I read slow and all with my eyes....My Midnight has been dxed with CRF for over a year but I am SURE I did not catch it right away...I feel like a bad mommy for that....I knew he was hyperT and that he had a small heart murmur..I had posted his levels on the crf..yahoo support group list and the newest one I didnt have it was just a partial one cause he had had a blood profile wow...a month ago....I will post some numbers later but his K had oddly improved its a solid 4.6 I think I am not looking at the papers....right now....His liver, bs, and so on are issues so its a total system deal...His PCV was only 18% and 6 weeks ago it was good..so things are not good..Wow thanks on the offer of some supplies BLESS YOU...I have some stuff and will PM you on what I may need..THATS WAY SWEET thanks3.gif My doc seems way anti meds for the anemia....I think cause of all the system failures it may makes one other area worse...so no Procrit or that.....I will post more in a bit and PM you..I tried to open 2 pms from a wanton small doggette flirting with my lab but I got an error message so it may be late..YOURE AWESOME AND way sweet also very informed I read that on some of your pages

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thanks3.gif Thank you and yes the needle in the eye gig doesn't um thrill me but if I have to have it in August to save my sight thats ok....well not ok but blind or needle I vote for needle..I just pray more fluid is absorbed and I can skip all the stuff..I am happy with my vision now but the Retina dude doesnt want to leave the fluid on my lens..intense is the word hahaha....

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Youre always so supportive thank you and I have a Tiffany and Midnight update for all when I catch up

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Victoria youre an angel and always there for everyone on both sites.....I too am sooo glad to dodge that bullet on the eye deal for now..I pray its for good...maybe I will post a site on it later....but I kinda like having NOTHING done and being ok lol...WHEW sweat wiped off my face here


ON Midnight his blood tests I got the results....PCV was 18% and HIS blood sugar was high...he acts fine and ate well...even some...gak liver I cooked today as did

Tiffany who keeps jumping a baby gate she shouldn't.....but she came through fine...and we didnt get a biopsy he is keeping the lump in some stuff in case but it was 80 dollars more and would not change the treatment at all.....so we had it taken out he seems to feel its not cancer and shes been eating a lot and seems lkinda loopy..I didnt know a calico would have the skin color the same as her spots

Midnight ...IPB Image later hubby is home and wants a tiffany update

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MIDNIGHT........

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... IPB Image We took Tiffany to the vet and I did get the blood results and all on Midnight.....it was a mini panel and all his electrolytes are right in normal range....His blood sugar was up and the PCV was 18% NOT GOOD......
He has been eating that cooked liver like crazy and up and down on his ladder..he had taken by day to laying and sleeping on a ladder in the dinningroom lol...we had it to kill a bug it has wide steps...and then laid a towel on it..well..that is now his throne....ALL my pets went nuts wanting that liver while it was boiling...I gave them all some but not tons and have the rest in a container...in the fridge....This morning I was sleeping when hubby took Midnight to the vet and he picked Midnight up..he was next to me covered up with a blanket I have for him and I had my hand on him I guess ALL night cause I woke thinking why is my arm raising way up...whats under it..I was in a sleepy fog but..I thought it kinda telling that I slept all night hand on Midnight....to keep him warm.......  Angel15.gif  scarecat.jpg magicmoon.gif blcat_sm.gif
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So Glad You And Midnight Found IMON

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I just read a post from you at the Feline CRF Support with a link to Midnight's PIN page on IMOM. I am so glad you two found this wonderful, careing community. I found IMOM in September before Groovy got to the vet and was dx with CRF. I also know how hard things can be as I have been out of work since Feb, 2004. Somehow I have managed to keep Groovy going. Groovy just had a birthday 07/04/86 and I know the only way he made it to his birthday was from internet support groups telling me how to care for him.

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I just pray more fluid is absorbed and I can skip all the stuff..I am happy with my vision now but the Retina dude doesnt want to leave the fluid on my lens..intense is the word hahaha.... heart.gif
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Sending positive thoughts for your eye, and for Midnights health!  

My husband's mom had the needle in her eye, and though it was uncomfortable for that moment, she was fine. Hoping it won't come to that, but if it does, thank goodness there is technology like that. Blessings for you eyes, you need that sight! whitekitty.gif

Precious says, more lab hugs and kisses, please! She sends all the best to Midnight too! heart.gif


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We have actually emailed I know your sigline cause I love it..it;s so cool......Thanks..I did not know you were ever on imom.....I was stunned as I read that I too am glad you found it and just today..hope its ok..passed this and CIC to another person on the list that wrote me shes way overwhelmed..aren't we all..Yes its cool here and I would be lost without the help. Also on the list so many Bridge kids give there stuff away and I have been lucky enough to get some RX foods and meds Midnight takes,..it helps so much...A 4th of July baby...too cool..Does Groovy have a site here I haven't seen it? 19 y/o wow we have vintage kitties magicmoon.gif  
I am so glad you followed my link/sigline....now we can talk more and I agree the group on here CIC and yahoo crf group has taught me a lot..I pray you find a job soon. kittydrinking.gif <--- Groovy KEEP coming to visit

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Midnight sends many purrs but wants the Lab to get his licks in.....(hehe)   dog_yellow.gif so he gives the floor to him first to send many many labby kisses to Precious.

Wow you know someone who had the shot in the eye..its kinda new..did she get well from it...Oddls are I will not escape it but maybe? gulp....lets just hope I can just save the sight I will be happy with that really....You are too cool YOURE the only one I know who knows someone whos had that and maybe if I have to get it in August I will pick your brain on it....

Midnight now scarecat.jpg told me to tell everyome he loves liver and his new cat food its for kidneys ..I didnt think he would eat the dry but he did and man he is eating..I mixed his liver with the juice of other cat foods to make it moise and he ate maybe a cup or 2/3rds...he laid in the window me on the sofa and got sun..we just talked and petted and all.......then I got busy with wash and all but we had some good times today..just the two of us ..which is rare....Tiffany is cool.....so far so good she would not let me sleep good this a.m kept licking me....It was a busy work in house day but nice with Midnight and furkids kinda day

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I went to take my meds and Midnight wasn't in his spot....so I looked and he was in bed with the other cats.....so hubby moved him.....the bed is protected....he just wanted to be with the gang tonight its not common for him anymore and daddy ruined it

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Sandy,

I got your message in my ezinbox. I will send a message with my email address and a phone number to your ezinbox. I might still have some vitamine b that I can send you. I also have something called "ferros sulfate". That is what Michelle was giving to Batman when he was anemic. I never gave it to Antares because he was getting the shots of Epogen. I can send it to you. Does Midnight eat well? I have an appetite stimulant. This is pretty well all what I have left since I gave to David and now Mike what they needed for their kitty. I also have some Benazepril, Zantac and TB needles and syringes.

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Wow you know someone who had the shot in the eye..its kinda new..did she get well from it...Oddls are I will not escape it but maybe? gulp....lets just hope I can just save the sight I will be happy with that  
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I would be happy to tell you more about her situation if it turns out you need to go that route. It was very helpful for her, and not bad at all. Just a bit uncomfortable during the procedure itself, but it goes quickly.

Precious says thanks for purrs, AND lab kisses...she likes them ALL!

Trying to get myself to branch out to meet some of the other CRF kitties...with time, I will get to that..for now, so glad I have met Midnight and you! butterfly.gif

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Hey ya sweetie youre awesome ya know...to help us all with your supplies....I do not know what "Benazepril" is is that an antibiotic?....Zantac, I can use and the ferrious stuff.....needles no cause when someone on my yahoo crf list;s cat went to the bridge he sent me a ton of needles if you mean for subq..I ezed you back cause as I went to write the first time my lab jumped up on me and messed up where my curser was and added letters to your email addy sorry....so I ezed..I lost my long distance they shut it off and I am praying they don't shut my phone off...BLESS YOU AND THANKS MEGA thanks3.gif magicmoon.gif

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My wild labby sends love to Precious..me too on bracjing out not just in CRF but I try to get around though I do not think I do a great job of it.... heart.gif dog_yellow.gif I will pick your brain when if the eye gig comes up...Youre so sweet I was in your thread last night and you have a lot on you too......but I gotta see those pool pics later

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Man...I wake up and Midnight has ummm I don't know how to put this nice but poop issues.....he is like leaking it hard and like juice....not diarrhea but .....odd so I cleaned him up had an appt he didnt eat all day so far.I carried him to the bowls both meals....yesterday he was great....today he seems bad....oh and this a.m maybe at 8 he woke is trying to puke like dry heaves klinda......sounded painful...Sometimes I think my vet doesnt think we should treat the anemia cause of the fact he knows we are poor and its end stages and or he knows Midnight feels way bad and wants to just cover some and not break us mentally or cash wise....he started to mention procrit then had stopped and said lets run tests he shook his head last time on his poop sample and well..I dont know.....I feel kinda down cause I just dont know what to do...I am swimming in the ocean in the dark


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Sandy,

I'm so sorry to hear Midnight's day yesterday was rough...I sure hope he is feeling much better this morning! Perhaps with the liver being so new to his system, thats what caused the issues...I know you gave him small amounts, which was the right thing to do, he could just be getting used to it. I'm not sure, but if it happens today, you might want to call your vet. If you think your vet is holding back on giving you more options to treat Midnight's anemia.. .call him on it.

I would ask if its in Midnight's best interest....and then take it from there. Perhaps there are less expensive meds than procrit... I'm sure its tough finding the right treatment option based on all of Midnight's health concerns, but your vet really needs to be upfront about everything and not avoid certain topics due to the "cost factor". You should have ALL of the information you need to make your decisions. Anyhow, I'll get off my IPB Image for now. whitekitty.gif

I'm thinking of you and hoping Midnight has a wonderful day today!  

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I completely agree. I don't know if your clinic has more than one vet, but if you feel this one is not giving you all the service you deserve even after asking more questions, it is okay to request another one, as long as your caseworker at IMOM knows.

The vets are working for you, not the other way around, as I am sure you know. And, anyone who makes medical decisions solely based on assumptions about what you can afford, without going over your wishes, isn't thinking too clearly about their medical responsibilities.

Something like that happened to my friend's father, who was older, had little money, and who needed an MRI...the doctor told my friend outright that since he was older, it would not be worth spending the money....well, she is a nurse, so she got her father's primary care covered by his secondary insurance, and dumped that doctor and the primary insurance, in order to get him the care he needed. I know that isn't easy to do, but I always think of her, when I have to decide to change caregivers for myself, or to help friends do it.

Sorry to hear it was such a tough night, and hoping it was just the liver!

Procrit is tough on the system, so it could be the vet is just being cautious.

Thinking of you, and all those handsome labby kisses you get, and that Precious wants! heart.gif
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Victoria thank you and yes today he seems oddly well....well for him..he has gone to his food bowl maybe 6 times to eat...I did liver today...I didn't know we could give him too much liver so ummmmmmm no I didn't give him small amounts...duh of me? I fed him that day wow when he finsished a bowl I filled it....I would guess he ate maybe a cup of it mixed with the juice of other cat foods to make it sloppy like they like.... magicmoon.gif Once in a blue moon he has issues with his anal sac area so we tried or did releive it so to speak last night cause he kept being a mess...he came in bed and didnt stay which is odd but....I woke and he seems pretty good and ate a lot of liver..I will make sure I hope its not too late that he doesnt eat too much of it today..I was just trying to get him to build up asap.....I plan to email you late tonight....btw, I like when you get on your soapbox lol


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Yo mareanteasin ....thank you..I will be seeing the vet semi soon to have Tiffanys stitches out and see after I email my caseworker if he can go on somethi g for the anemia..He did say a whole buncha stuff and I posted some of that but at the time...I was kind of inwardly freaking out over Midnight and Tiffany and may have missed some of what he said...I also had asked him if I could give him Spooky;s (he passed away) heart meds to slow his heart and mellow his bp if it was up and he said no.......but..why? I don't know if he said or not...I dont think he did and I really REALLY like Dr R.....BUT I will talk to him and see why not.....it may be that his liver is shot which he did kinda say and maybe these meds would make it worse? I dont know

Thank you and those Labby kisses....all over my face  and all over Precious face......he sends some respectful MIL to be kisses to you  

I am just worried on Midnight and can take it if he point blank sez hey look he is dying NOW very soon and to treat this will mess with this and make him feel worse but now...I dont know what he said..I have had so much on my mind I end up an idiot

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Sandy......CRF is a progressive disease, that much we do undoubtedly know, right? Now, the secondary issues that may occur with CRF can be controlled and give the cat a better quality of life (a.k.a., feel better). Binders can be used for high phosphorus, BP meds can be used for high blood pressure. Procrit, iron and B vitamin supplementation can help with the anemia, acid reducers can help with nausea, sub-q fluids are used to treat the dehydration that occurs with CRF, potassium supplements are used when potassium is low from giving fluids....the list goes on and on and on.
IF Midnights vet feels that Midnight is going to die anyway, and yes, he IS going to die someday (then again, arent we all?), and that is the attitude, then I would search high and low for a vet that is more pro-active in Midnights CRF treatment. For example, Christmas was given 6 months to live by his vet when diagnosed, and lo and behold, he is a year and a half past diagnosis. YOU have to be proactive in treating your pet, your pet cannot do this alone. Vets CANNOT tell you that your pet is going to die in a week, or a month, or a year....they DO NOT have a crystal ball that tells the future; although some think they do.
Untreated anemia will cause a cat to die faster then at least trying to treat it. If it were me, I would demand an answer as to WHY your vet wont treat any of these secondary issues Midnight is experiencing due to his CRF.  

The liver can be causing Midnights stomach to be upset and the diarrhea. You arent feeding him large quantities, are you? Just a few pieces at a time is best....

Okay, Im hopping of of my IPB Imagefor now....hopefuly I wont trip and fall.... (or get tripped on my way down!)

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----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandy -- Just checking in on you and Midnight. I agree with everything Lynn said... and she's pretty well-spoken for a gal who fell off her IPB Image, isn't she? Clearly she did not land on her head. tongue.gif

A lot of us have experienced what you're experiencing now -- facing the painful reality that your beloved pet is in the last phase of his life, cherishing every day, and wondering how many more there will be. I hope we're not making you feel like you're not doing enough for Midnight. That's not it at all. We're just used to brainstorming for each other to see if there are any options to at least make the animal feel better. No matter how much you know about a disease, when it's your pet and you're in the middle of the crisis, it's hard to think clearly. So we kind of rely on each other to say, "is there anything else I should be doing for my baby? Is there anything else I should ask my vet about?"

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I just re-read what I wrote after Kim responded....and I realize that I may have come across as being harsh. Sandy, NONE of that was directed at you, I know how much you love your boy, and that you would literally walk through fire for him.
My anger and frustration is really towards a lot of vets non-caring attitude. Just last week I had Diana (from IMOM) on the phone while she was at the VETS OFFICE asking me what my take was on her vet telling her that her cats CRF is terminal and she should PTS. I could have screamed wacko.gif....Life in itself is terminal, and yes, CRF is terminal. BUT, one can make a cats time here more comfortable with a vet that is willing to work with them.
So....I sincerely apologize if I came across wrong. None of that was directed at you, as Kim so eloquently said, we are all just trying to help you "brainstorm".
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Hi Sandy,
Just popping in to check on you and Midnight. I hope he's feeling a little better today.

Now about the vet, it might be a good idea to make a list of the suggestions you've gotten here on the board, and bring them into the vet with you. When you write out the list, leave some room underneath each item, so that you can record your vets' comments. Ask him about each element separately, then jot down his concerns/objections.

I know that if I go to the vet and don't either bring a "buddy" or write down what is said, I have major trouble remembering later. Also by taking the notes, you'll be able to tell your friends here exactly why the vet objects, and it's very possible that he has good reason.

I know that Midnight is a senior with multiple systems failures, but, if any of these treatments can help his kidneys, without harming something else, it could possibly give him some quality of life back, by making him more comfortable.

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Oops, Lynn, I wasn't commenting on your post! I was actually apologizing for what I wrote to Sandy the other day, just after Midnight had his vet visit. We cat moms tend to flip into "fix it" mode and I immediately launched into "what about this treatment or that treatment?" and poor Sandy was probably thinking, "Doesn't this woman understand what my vet just told me??"

Not to diss your vet, Sandy, because I think vets have to deal with a lot of clients who don't value their pets enough to go the whole 9 yards, or who don't "get it" when the time is near. You don't fall into either category. If I can add to Lynn's example above...... I had to rush a kitten from a feral colony to the vet's yesterday and as he continued to decline today, the vet starting saying to me, "I don't know if it's worth your (SPCA's) time and money to keep going with this kitten." I let her know REAL quickly that money was not the issue, that the issue was what made sense for that kitten. Long story short, we couldn't save him and I authorized euthanasia. broken_heart.gif But not because the vet gave up on him - because there truly wasn't anything more we could do. There's a difference, ya know?
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Hi all ...No apology needed I do understand what you are ALL saying I too am more pro-active than I must come across in writing and know and am 100% for and pushing for quality to what is left of Midnight's life. I was told over a year ago he had WEEKS and it's been over a year....I have lost family members and we made them comfortable so I do know that...

I think? what happned was at the time I saw Dr Randy I was so stressed on my eyes, Tiffany AND Midnght that I didn't GET what he did say and too maybe he could have been more direct and blunt ..We will clear that up this week when I take Tiffany in to have her stitches out..I will ask again and maybe say make it simple I am too stressed for med talk (he knows I use to work in the medical field) .....

I really DO want to stress though that Dr Randy would NOT just PTS any animal to just save cash..I have had him fix a turtle shell of a turtle I found and saved on the road..he did this for free and it takes time to piece shell together..I have seen dogs he had patched up and saved that people found hit on roads and all....he is a kind man and a good vet ....

I DID ask on meds for the anemia, the heart and so on and made it clear I wanted a quality life for Midnight...but somehow and it's no doubt my stress

I got lost in the communication and it lacked and I am frustrated because like all of you I want the VERY best time for Midnight or I would rather he be PTS.....and that is the frustration you are reading within me...I just don't know how to make it any better for Midnight than I have. I like I said will try to get PLAIN and simple answers on this from him .

One thing is too...when he saw Midnight and he had seen him just maybe 6 weeks before he looked upset like worried on him or like he knew something was off..big time and we did talk on his liver a lot......I will post on that maybe later but ....please know I did ask and am going to ask why not again and that I appreciate ALL the help and input scarecat.jpg magicmoon.gif thanks3.gif


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Christmas' story is a great example. As is, your own experience with Midnight, and family members you mentioned.

Sounds like your vet is compassionate, and not quick to PTS a furbaby...just that there are some communication issues to work out, or perhaps some preferences your vet has, that may not be the same as yours, and it is okay to disagree...I have found that some vets are good for certain things, and others are more aware of other diseases...many have more experience in some areas, or have specialized to some degree in certain diseases, though they take all kinds of cases.


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Sandy, it is so clear that you do ask and that you are doing great...it is emotional, and don't be hard on yourself at all, that is why taking a second person is so helpful, if you can, or a notepad, or tape recorder...whatever works for you!

Note: Reading back through your thread further, I just realized I wrote what Laura said, but I guess it won't hurt to know that more than one person does the same thing!

I go with friends to the vet, their doctors, wherever they need some kind of witness and extra support. After years of thinking I was aware and "tough enough," to go alone (because I had medical experience? Well, that didn't matter a bit when I was a patient, or when Teasin' my greyhound had terminal cancer...I ran into difficulties). I now, ALWAYS take someone with me! whether it is to the vet, or the human doctor, if it is for more than just routine shots, etc. tongue.gif

You might be able to take a friend with you and a pad of paper and a pen. Have the friend write down whatever the vet says...this gets them to be a little more careful in how and what they say...and be ARMED with your questions too, that you have written out ahead of time, and have your friend have a copy of those too, in case you miss asking some of them.

It is emotional to go to a vet, and there are sometimes feelings of pressure..."the vet is too busy, the vet knows best, my furbaby is older, my furbaby has a chronic illness, I don't know if I have enough money, etc."

BUT, those are NOT the primary issues. Midnight's care is the issue, as you know.

Occasionally, I fall victim to certain vets' personality stuff, so, if it seems like I am not getting anywhere with that vet, I go to a different one for a follow-up and take the notes from the first one. I have been very successful by doing this, and have often found a vet I could work with better.

In fact, Dr. Johnson, who helped me find IMOM, and who saved Precious' life was not a vet I even knew about...but after getting the cold shoulder from some other clinics when I asked for a sliding fee scale, I found her!

THE TRUE FOCUS is Midnight's (and your) well-being together during this time, which is so VALUABLE, just like it was before Midnight got this condition.

Lynn and Kim mentioned some good medical info which you could copy off from their posts, and there are probably other posts worth copying, and you can use those for your questions with the vet.


People here can give you excellent info about the experience they have had...there is a lot to be said for those who have gone through this with their furbabies...often they know much of what you are going through, and the medical solutions they found for their furbabies, and that is SO VALUABLE!!!

Often it is the culmination of many vet visits they have had, or years of experience with cats or dogs, and they know what they are suggesting, even though it must be tailored specifically to Midnight by your vet.

So, thank goodness for IPB Image boxes, and the concern people have here...I have found that the info here is very compassionate, and will often include the helpful suggestions the vet may forget to mention, and will be pretty on the mark with what your vet has to say, and if it isn't, it is a great way to start a conversation with your vet that will either lead to a better understanding, OR a need to let that vet go!

So, luck.gif , I know you'll do great! Often I print off the whole thread of suggestions, double check them with the vet, and when I can, do some checking on the internet.. .these are some astute crazy cat and dog ladies/people here, and you won't go wrong, believe me!   


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Lynn- You come across as a breath of fresh air, with tons of great info and support, as I know you will see from Kim's and Sandy's posts...thank goodness for you and all the Angel15.gif s and for Midnight having such a dedicated mommy!

Life is terminal, but QUALITY of life, is a right!

That, hopefully, is the goal for all of us...for ourselves, our family members, and our furbabies. The medical community has just got to get with it, or their "patients" (I always laugh at that, since I read it as us all having to be "patient" with the craziness of having to navigate the medical systems), will go elsewhere, since we are more empowered than ever, and will become moreso I hope in the future...it is our money that keeps them in business, so they have to think twice about acting like gods!

That said, there are many excellent vets and doctors who understand this, and I know Sandy, that you will either find this quality in your vet as you put things on paper, and if not, the next one, or the next one...it is okay to keep going until you find the right one, will have it.

Second and third opinions are WELCOMED by good vets and doctors...after all they don't work in a vacuum anyway, and constantly talk with each other about cases in their own clinic, so they should not make you feel funny about getting another opinion if you can afford it. GOOD VETS AND DOCTORS have enough humility to know they will benefit from other opinions, and from your questions....there is no dumb question, and they should take the time to make sure you understand what the treatment options are, and why, in their opinion. As you know, each vet may have a different approach and understanding of the situation.

By and large, medicine is part science, part art...and all of us are human, so it isn't always an easy mix.

Again, thanks Lynn, Kim, and Sandy...you all are so great! heart.gif

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The clinic I worked for only offered euthanasia in cases where it was so serious that the likelihood of recovery was extremely low, and even then, they went by the request of the furbaby's caregiver! They would refuse euthanasia to clients who came in wanting it for reasons that were not medically necessary...I won't go into those, since they are heartbreaking. I respected them so much for that, and that is why I worked for them for so long, plus it was all women run, which I really liked! IPB Image

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More and more vets are actually starting to do this, especially when folks just want to get rid of a dog and "don't want to put them in a shelter", vets are becoming more and more pro pet and referring folks to rescue agencies.

I do think there are many good vets out there who DO see a pet leading a good quality life, despite his/her medical condition. These are vets who allow the pet owners to be active participants in their pets care, they educate, they spend time with their patients and their caregivers. And they never belittle a pet parent for loving their pets like their children. Because, they too believe the pets are "our children" too.

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None of us disagree.....but I did take my hubby but he too went doh like Homer Simpson or something

Today Midnight is a little mad at me cause I will not give him any liver....I guess maybe every day in small amounts or every other day.,...he was sleeping so soundly next to me this A,M that he peed in his sleep and didn't know it...hubby picked him and the protective stuff off the bed and I slept on....I have cleaned him up but I may have to give him a full real bath and I hate to do it but he has had the foam deal in in and then just tons of soap and water cleaning and he is still smelly I know he hates that..Minus that he slept a good deal and just mellowed out ...we both kinda did....Ya know at his age and feeling not so good...he doent play a ton....but he loves to be loved and petted and sung to....and petted and we look in each others eyes and just melt magicmoon.gif

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Wow, lots of good reading on this post! Food for thought kind of things. And then in the middle of it is sweet Midnight! He has no idea so many are worried about him-well, maybe he does...

I just attended my second hospice volunteer training (I'll be taking Ava or Bruno on my visits-I couldn't do it myself) and we talked about palliative care. I like the way they described it. There comes a point where things can't be fixed, but measures can be taken to ease pain and promote comfort. They are very strict in hospice-if something meets those two things but is normally considered treatment (like chemo) but is not used to "fix" the problem, the patient can have it. Life enhancing and not life extending measures. Now, the life enhancing may extend the life a bit as a matter of course, but that is not the object. I had a lot of questions (can you imagine the poor trainer wanting to IPB Image me right out of there) but was able to relate Mikko's illness and death as a really good example of this. Right near the end we (Dr. Ross and I) discussed a feeding tube. However, we could both see that the processes for death were well on their way and that we would not have enhanced or given him comfort. So, I guess I have rambled my way through this, gotten out a little more pain about Mikko, just to say that I hope Midnight is enjoying his time with you, and you with him. That you are able to comfort him throughout the time he has with you and I hope it's as long as it should be.

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Aw don't be embarrassed Jean I get what you were saying...I have had my dad die in my home under hospice and also my brother in law who had non hodkins lymphoma (my sis had MS) and I am really familiar with the care of the dying patient...much more than I would like to be frankly. I have taken care of pets and humans who have been very ill since I was 15 and I guess maybe I am wearing out myself and slipping some.
I do know you are being supportive as is everyone.....I am just not sure I am coming across as having that knowledge from all the humans who have passed through by fingers in my life. I have spoken/worked with and fought with doctors most of my life and really am all for quality of life and the comfort of the person or animal who is terminally ill. So we do all agree thanks3.gif

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Awww Victoria thank you as always youre so kind....He didn't get any sun today we had a welcome T Storm today and I laid with him on me.......petting his face a lot ..with only one finger (he loves that.)...after that he got his apetite back....he wasn't eating much today till then I think...well I know he must get depressed being so ill and unable to do some things he use to when he was a kitten...but laying on mom being petted till he fell asleep...well that IS his sun and mine cool.gif

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Marea and Precious thank you ...AHHH YES my Midnight he makes my heart melt....he gets so relaxed around me too...all my pets do sometimes I wonder why..but I am the one they seek ..Like when I took Midnight and Tiffany to the vet.,....Tifany had her head into me while the vet looked at her....she wanted to stay buried in me. We communicate so much with our eyes.

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Treating or not anemia that goes with CRF is very controversial. Some vets (more than we think) apparently won’t treat it. The reason is: THERE IS NO DRUG for cats or dogs that treats anemia. We have to use a human drug: Procrit/Epogen (Procrit and Epogen are the exact same drug, only the label changes because they are distributed by different companies). The fear that many vets have is that the cat might develop antibodies to the drug – well, yes, it is a risk -- and a study was made about this risk but nothing was conclusive. A company came out with a drug that was supposed to be a derivative of Epogen/Procrit – this one for cats. The study failed to bring the results expected; cats were developing antibodies at the same rate with the cat product than the human product. Now this said, Antares did well on Epogen; we had a bit of trouble at the beginning, but he did improved. If it wasn’t for a sudden change – what we think was a stroke – Antares would probably still be on Epogen. In fact, it did work so well for him that the drug kicked in very quickly (less than 2 weeks); when, sometimes, it can take months to show a result.

I wasn’t too concerned that Antares would develop antibodies because when you know what the “antibodies deal” is about, it is worth trying the treatments. Epogen/Procrit is replacing a hormone that is produced by the kidneys; so doing that drug might shut down the ability of the kidneys to ever produce this hormone again. Now, know that by that time the failing kidneys stop producing that hormone because of CRF, there IS NO coming back anyway. When the cat starts developing antibodies to the drug, the dosage is increased accordingly or it is given more often to compensate. But, because of that risk, Epogen/Procrit is NEVER used in temporary anemia (like with serious blood loss). At that time, a blood transfusion is better. In the case of CRF, the outcome really outweighs the risks. I have read about some cats doing very well for several years on the drug.

Now if Midnight’s vet feels that Epogen/Procrit is not the right solution for Midnight, it is maybe because there are other factors associated with the drug that would not be appropriate in midnight’s case. Procrit/Epogen is still a very new treatment in veterinary medicine after all. It is also a very difficult drug to handle and therefore a very tough decision to make one way or the other. Discussing it thoroughly with the doctor to know what are his views on the drug and why he thinks that it is not appropriate for Midnight might bring you peace of mind. It is better to know why and accept the answer than doubt.

I keep you and Midnight in my thoughts.

By the way, I got your email and I will reply to it soon.

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Sandy - it's very obvious how much you love Midnight and are doing everything you can for him.

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Hey gang I have to do a fast post tonight as I just got in not long ago and hubby has to use the puter to to something for a job recruiter...PRAY HE GETS THE JOB it pays well and has benefits...I may be on late and apologize for not a long post...First thanks on the info on the anemia drugs and letting me know its controversial and all..AND thank you Jacki I will take a pad of paper...I don't have a recorder but that is a great idea...

On MIDNIGHT he is so well today..got sun lots of it and when I came in he was drinking water lots..but not too much ....he also ate and slept so cute with me last night..hubby moved all the cats out of the room at 5 am but me and Midnight were sound asleep and when I was waking I saw I had wrapped myself almost around him....and I am unhappy hubby moved them all but the bed was dry peeing.gif laugh.gif

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Wow what a 24 hours...last night I hardly saw Midnight he is fine and slept well....but we went to the beach and on our way home....hit HUGE storms and took us 3 hrs to get home..once in the subq and meds and so on...then at 330 am my dog had a major seizure.....an hours later after we went to bed he had another..we called the ER vet they said give him some Valium and we took him to the vet...Dr Randy today...he is now on Phenobarbital ...It just keeps raining in our lives it seems....I did ask Dr Randy on the heart/BP meds again and he reviewed Midnights chart and said he is very worried it would cause a worse arrhymia....and opn the anemia meds...he said lets check it again in 30 days but his fear is...with all Midnights issues that he will be sicker on it with side effects and that they really aren't sure it works anyhow but that many of his patients discontinue the treatment because of the side effects and all...so I am confortable with that and cannot type all he said..time ..but its came down to for Midnight with his issues...it would mostlikely make him feel sicker

Hubbys birthday is today its not been a happy one but he does have a phone interview set up on 1 of 3 jobs so please pleasae pray he gets a job with benefits ...that woulf help all of us

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I'm so sorry to hear about your dog's seizures, how upsetting and frightening that must have been. I'm so glad you were able to talk with your vet and get started on an anti seizure treatment.

I'm also glad you were able to review some issues regarding Midnight. Medications are tricky...it often seems when you treat one condition, it causes another one. As long as you have all the information, make an informed choice you are comfortable with, then thats all that matters. Its obvious how much you truly love Midnight. heart.gif

I'm sending lots of positive thoughts for your husband's interview...I'm hoping things will work out for you!!

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I know it isn't an easy time, but wanted to wish your hubby birthday4.gif , even if you all need to celebrate a bit delayed.

Thinking of your dog too, just breaks my heart, but thank goodness for anti-seizure meds. Wish I could be there to give you all HUGS.

Don't worry about keeping up with ezinbox msgs right now...just post here as you can, and as per requirements, and know you are very cared about, even if you have to take some time to keep yourself as rested as possible. dog_yellow.gif

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I will be sending your husband the best wishes possible for the job situation!  

And many positive thoughts re: everything else happening...when it rains it pours sometimes, but you have lots of good thoughts coming your way from all the IMOM Angel15.gif s, and I hope that helps a little, to take some of the stress out of what is a stressful situation! hugs.gif

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Victoria that is so true its been a storming here...but maybe somewhere we will get a rainbow....all the help we have had with Midnight has been one to us...now maybe an Ark would help lol....yikes....We are still stunned on my dog.


On Midnight yes I was so glad the vet went into detail on why he was afraid for Midnight and alll he even addressed quality of life and all so I am feeling good on that...

Those pawsative thoughts are helping he passed the phone inyerview and now had a in person interview on Monday...now to pray he gets it ..but there are 3 jobs between 2 recruters that he has been called a lot on.....and may be get the best one with benefts..then we can help others and not just take

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Marea THANK YOU as always you are a good person to always spend your time with us...Yeah we are stunned a lab this young is having seizures and violent ones at that....2 in one night and at 330 am and 4 am.....was a fright but he is cool now and I have been trying to read up on it....as far as dogs and so on..I wish we would win the lotto I would take him to a doggy neurologist....We shall see maybe hubby will get the job...as it is HE HAS A IN PERSON INTERVIEW NOW..

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Precious wants me to measure that paw! He can have her paw in marriage...I consent! heart.gif She is in love. tongue.gif


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Thanks everyone....It's sooooo HOT here even the A/C will not kill the heat...GAK....I HAVE FANS ON TOO.

I had to post this cause its kinda cute..way cute to me but he is my kid...So I have done this with my Midnight almost all his life but never really thought of it..when he is eating he will stop and I have to keep a spoon near by to do what I call FLUEGAL his food...if he stops and I kinda mix it up a tad he will eat more..I have even had to do this with my fingers but he will even look UP at me stop and wait for me to fluegal it....I never thought about it till today..we have just been doing this forever. This kinda struck me as cute and funny...he is maybe spoiled scarecat.jpg catinmoon.gif magicmoon.gif blcat_sm.gif


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Midnight's habit is so endearing! Please give your handsome boy some HUGS for me.

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She is SO IN LOVE with your beautiful labby!!!!!! dog_yellow.gif

You know, with this heat, it has been tough to get the kitties  stripekitty.gif at the catsit to eat the wet food (they graze on dry throughout the day, but get a little wet food a.m and p.m), and it can't sit out, or it will go rancid, so today, I fed one in bed with me...I didn't "fluegal" the food, but I might try it next time!!!  ...in the housesitting directions, I am to light candles, and sit with them at the dining room table, which, if there were not so much mail piled up on it I would do...she said the bed is the other place they are allowed to eat...so at 6am...I hear little kitty lickin' good sounds next to my ear! I loved it! kittydrinking.gif

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Hey Sandy,

A quick note to say that I am thinking of you. I will prepare and send your package this week. I have a lot of packages to send all over the place and I can only send one at a time because no car. Moreover, since I get no breaks at work, I really have to go between jobs. I just started a second part-time. So, I am behind with what I promised you. wacko.gif

I couldn't read all the posts in their entirety since last time I posted; I just caught a couple of lines here and there. Sorry that your dog had seizures; I hope he is better now. Wish a happy belated birthday to your hubby for me and tell him that all my fingers are crossed for him to get a new job.

Many kitty kisses to Midnight.

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Awww Victoria...Lilly sounds like she could be kin to Midnight..or we are crazy cat ladies lol... It's funny how much we do for our furkids without thinking...I bet we all have a billion stories...Midnight sends...SMOOTH as can be cat in the shade purrs and headbutts... You are he said waycool.gif magicmoon.gif

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I still haven't figured out how you guys do the colors and big letters...but LABBY LOVES PRECIOUS and he has been looking online its hot here at some rings at Tiffanys...he I think dreams big.

What is this...you did NOT fluegal those poor cats food...OMG that is heresey tongue.gif laugh.gif
I AM stunned at the bed eating and candles I love my kids but ummmmm not gonna happen here....Petsitting....that may be an idea hubby and I can do to add extra cash....

Youre a sweetie and I owe you a LOT of ezbox mail bear with me...... thanks3.gif

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THANK YOU Jean and ALL it's looking good... pp_animal_362.gif he said it went well but may be a private contractor offer made before a job job...we shall see they said they had to work out some details with the lady in PA that did the phone interview....so should know that hubby is very wanting of medical benefits and to give maybe less cash and a hourly job or salary...we will see and hope and pray..the job is 1 1/2 hours away...so until we moved he would spend a lot of time on the road and on gas but we want it if they offer it.... blcat_sm.gif We have to lose this house cause its a money pit and from all the refinacing its cost a mint a month, plus we are always behind on payments blcat_sm.gif ....so a move would be cool tongue.gif

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Awww Ailine we will help with postage fee you should not have to pay for all this...you ARE NOT JUST AN ANGEL BUT A SAINT my friend..I did email you a letter by email and my addy a while back..I hope I still have your addy..IF you do not hear from me late late tonght....please ez me the email addy again..I have a yahoo addy if you look maybe it hit your spam folder? catinmoon.gif Midnight and I really appreciate all your help and the fact you even TRY to read all the stuff in here and help so many Angel15.gif <-- you dear...you have a huge heart Thank you and hubby said thanks......Now to wait on job offer..tic toc tic toc

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I feel sorry for him because he has ALWAYS been the top aka Alpha cat...and now Tiffany is being mean to him even in bed..like when he wanted to get closer to my face she whacked him one....and he fell over in shock and cause he is weak too weak for her fits.....It must be hard mentally on him..SO last night I made sure I stared her down and told her I AM THE ALPHA CAT and HE is second in command and I moved him right up to my face area...he was lol so proud he slept all night ....hubby got up at 10 for the job interview and Midnight had peed in his sleep or didnt want to give up his position so...pooir baby he slept in it..I had to wash him up when I got up....A PLUS is he is moving around a lot more...Any ideas on keeping his moral up? I know its natural to wanna be the top dog or cat when another is ill but that was sad ...Otherwise he is doing pretty good and I gotta cook more liver......its smelly but he LOVES it in fact they all do even the dog wants some when its cooking

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Aw poor Midnight, I bet it's tough on him, he still think's he's the TOP CAT. Remind him he is, the other cats just see he's not feeling good and are taking advantage of it - to DETHRONE him.

When our little cockerTina lost her sight and hearing (she was always the alpha female) our shepherd Lady, who was always intimidated by a little 17 pound cocker, moved into the role and was alittle more aggressive with Tina - stealing her food and toys and the ultimate crime - sleeping on HER bed. Alpha mom had to run some interference, when giving treats to them I always gave Tina the treat first. It helps re enforce the pecking order. Lady eventually understood the ground rules - I don't know if this would work with cats - since they are so different than dogs.

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Awww Ailine we will help with postage fee you should not have to pay for all this...
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DO NOT WOT WORRY ABOUT THE POSTAGE!!! I can afford it! I said I could only send one package a day because I have to carry it on the bus, not because of money issues. So, please don't worry. I am just sorry that I couldn't send it to you earlier. I am glad that those supplies will help Midnight. Your package is ready and I am sending it today. There is Vitamins B, Pet-Tinic, Zantac, 4 lines, Ferrous something, Lactulose and a bit of food (IVD dry and KD dry). If Midnight likes the IVD, I'll try to get you some more.

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Sandy,

I just sent the package. You will get it on Thursday or Friday. I hope that everything will arrive in good condition. There are 3 bottles in there that I tried to seal the best I could. The post office clerk was kind of puzzled when I told him the content of the package and how I had wrapped up everything. tongue.gif You will see and it will probably make you laugh to see what I used to seal and protect those bottles.
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He is quite intuitive to know that Precious is rather "pampered!" Plus, she loves a lab that dreams big! heart.gif

Guess what, I think I "fluegaled" the food...they ate it right out of the bowl after I followed your instructions last night! whitekitty.gif

If it works again tonight, we can create a hypothesis that this technique is effective...and since I have many more days left at the catsit, I can do research into the "fluegal" method!
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Sandy,
I think you are doing everything you can to keep Midnight's morale up....spending loving, quality time with him is by far the best medicine! Focusing your energies on doing things he loves is key

You and your husband are already so wonderfully compassionate and patient with him...especially with his accidents...never being upset by it, being so gentle and loving with him....I know it makes a world of difference.

I'm sending lots of positive thoughts about your husband's job hunting...and hoping all is well with Midnight today. stripekitty.gif heart.gif

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AWWW THANK YOU Linda..I feel for your dog too see I know it has to be hard on them to know they are being replaced as top dog or cat and mental issues can effect physical..I have been trying to keep him as alpha as possible but they know he is not up to a fight or even a slap...My Tiffany is totally NOT afraid of beating up the dog....shes lol nasty at times


I am like you I always feed Midnight first and as they come to dinner by their names I make darn sure his is always said and served first too

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OMG Ailine THANK YOU SO MUCH.... thanks3.gif I cannot tell you how much I appreciate it...Midnight too magicmoon.gif
He sends many many purrs...The fact you pay for this and take the bus sez a lot about your character..you are so kind.
I must say I gotta see your package hahhaha omg you have me all curious..I will see I guess by weeks end laugh.gif

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Thank you Victoria....we try in fact last night Midnight went to his throw rug laugh.gif  (that's his litterbox now he will NOT use any box with or without litter and or any type of litter...so the throw rug he pees on when he isnt peeing on us lol....has pads under it and I wash it daily and use another rug when thats in the wash..we have them hahah omg I am a crazy cat lady..check marked....he left the bed to use it twice..maybe to repay for the time I spent laying in bed with him earlier I had him up to my face and my head on him talking...Funny thing is we dont even carry him to the cat boxes anymore....well OK I dont ...I carry him to his rug and if he has to go he will..Sometimes I think he is so sound asleep he diesnt know he went...He didnt stay with us long last night..thats odd

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MASSIVELY LMAO.....I hope when you prove the "Fluegal method" to be effective (LOL IT IS) I would hope that Midnight will get credited in any papers you submit to the New England Journal of Medicine and all the Vet Jounals you will no doubt follow this up on...He will gladly pose for photos for these jounals with a bowl of food freshly fluegaled.

My lab is kind of eyeballing 3 rings at Tiffanys he has been thinking maybe he will get it to 2 and let her choose..what do you think? She the kinda gal who wants to pick her own or to be surprised?

On the job front gang..no call or emails YET.....fingers and paws crossed please

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To those of you who donate and sponsor Midnight as well as those who hang with us and hope and pray and keep us company BLESS you Please know what you do does make a differnce and helps us beyond measure..You are a blessing and until you walk in our shoes you will never know that what you have done and do takes such a burden off of us and allows us to work on other issues....And you will never know the time and quality you have added to Midnight's life.

We see heart.gif :happydance:t2 we had some more donations and also 2 people have sent us suppies and or are sending them...I do not know who all you are but...... thanks3.gif  magicmoon.gif for the gifts of love and time with Midnight these are treasures.
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But of course, Midnight will be our photo, plus we'll have to throw in some confusing graphs that make it seem all the more convincing, since you don't know what the heck they mean, and perhaps vets all over the country will take to the "midnight fluegal method (MFM)"! Sounds very good to me.

It worked again last night by the way!

Oh, and Presh, LUVS surprises...she knows her love of her life has good taste, and is handsome and sleek, so she trusts him completely! dog_yellow.gif pp_animal_564.gif

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MFM it is and so you know....fluegaling works with dry food also.....even dry that has sat for 3 days..I am thinking it may be due to the human love pheromone...maybe we can follow up on that

Shadow is still looking for her ..he said it must be JUST RIGHT

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Ailine, WE ot the package today..you did a great job wrapping it all nothing leaked. THANK YOU SO MUCH.....wow so much very needed and cool stuff for him .....I let him smell the box so he knows you sent it and man I was almost in tears thinking of your baby and that food he liked catinmoon.gif magicmoon.gif blcat_sm.gif.....I was also grateful you told me how much to use if that tinic and all...and the vitamins and all...youre way awesome and never ever doubt it...Youre a kind hearted person and we cannot thank you enough for all the cool stuff...

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My P is going on my puter so if I do not hit it hard it may be missing in posts all ..sorry....

Last night he had a great night and slept all night with us...I woke at 6 and took him to the box and hubby took him at 10..he was sooo snuggled down in the bed I just layed and watched him for a while this AM thinking how I just like to watch him breath...and he looks so at peace and so cute..There really isn't a word for that much cutness..Then today it was sunny and I hit the beach for an hour and layed him on the sofa back in the sun..man he enjoyed that....

Last night he hadn't eaten much so I tiook his food to him and MFM it and he ate a bunch and after my shower I caught hubby doing it laugh.gif

I was at my vets picking u his ht meds and one of the girls that JUST adores scarecat.jpg was behind the counter and asked on him and said its been a long time for a cat that was only going to make it a short time...I said yes and we smiled cause the odds on him were like 1000000: 1


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Wow all these years and I've been doing that to Sylvia's food and had no idea there was a "term" for it! Thank you Sandy, won't hubby be surprised when he askes me what I am doing and I say, "I'm Fluegaling Sylvia's food".

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I hope all your kids are doing well...
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I'm so glad Midnight had such a restful night and good day, this is great to hear! What a sweetheart...I bet he looks like an angel when he sleeps. I think a cat sleeping is one of the most peaceful things to watch...

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Laura You will have to tell us what hubby sez... Face it we have the fact that this is indeed the Fluegal method (mfm) to show him should he think the term mere folly. It could end up in laymans terms some day in Time or Newsweek magazine and think WE all knew of it first..IN FACT ITS ALMOST 18 YEARS OLD

The kids all seem well as can be...You know I know you know as a furkid mom that they can never be well enough...I wish the all had no illnesses.....Thanks for coming by and Midnight said he would be happy to fluegal your food should you need it

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Aww so true Victoria....they look so at peace..I love when any of my cats sleep...even my dog when he lays on the sofa next to me facing me... BUT Midnight...when he is in a certain position semi curled up on one side......face and ears so cute...ohh man he has to be the cutest cat in the Universe and the peace on his face...I have only known a few times in my life..I bet he feels like we do on a weekend when we sleep in on a cold cold winter morning and we are so warm and toasty....when I catch him like that sometimes he just knows and will opens one eye and looks at me......toooooo cute. Lethal cuteness

Today, he was laying on me and I play with his ears a lot always have like I bring them together and say WABBIT EARS..then I will do Unicorn...and so on....he is so cool and kinda likes it....its cute and makes me lol

Thanks for stopping in..Hey where is your symbol with CIC it was cute????


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Laura- I'm hooked on MFM for the cats I housesit...before they were finicky eaters...I had to eat my meals with them to get them to even look at their food...now with MFM....they eat right away, like there was no tomorrow!

Aline- thanks3.gif for the generosity you have shown Midnight and Midnight's mom...that is so very touching.

Victoria- whitekitty.gif So glad you are here too, as an Angel15.gif for cats everywhere.

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I'm so glad Midnight is doing well. What a sweetheart he is! Oh, the problem with my signature is that we hadn't posted it on the new web host, so it was "lost in space" so to speak for a while. laugh.gif Its back now with a new look. whitekitty.gif

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catinmoon.gif dog_yellow.gif We read you were injured Marea :( sorry.....I will mail you later and know you won't get it for a while..Midnight will not purr till you are well he said...and the lab...OMG your girl made him go into a full moon swoon....

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Victoria I have just been over there great job and I am not a puter genius so I cannot imagine all you had to do....Thank you ..I hope others know to go post over there too....

Midnight is a sweetheat isn't he I wish you could meet him.

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THANKS ALL ..I think you can tell by my shiort posts I am just too tired

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I'm sorry to hear Midnight has had a rough day with vomiting a few times... has he had issues with nausea relating to his CRF before? I wonder if he's just had an upset stomach today due to the CRF....if this continues tomorrow, I'd call the vet and inquire about starting him on pepcid to see if that helps. Also try raising his bowls (water and food) up off the floor, that sometimes helps with preventing stomach acid from being regugitated back up causing vomiting.

Has he been grooming himself lately? If not, that could be the reason for his greasy hair.... just some thoughts. I'm worried about him and hope that tomorrow is a much better day for him.


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Hey Victoria and all....Those are GOOD ideas because he is on Pepcid AC every other day and I will soon be switching to Zantac that Ailene sent me.....as he will be out of Pepcid...Some nice persons had given that to me as well as needles and stuff from the yahoo crf group I am in when their loved kittie went to the Bridge...And my vet has said I think Tagamet works too....Things is..minus his lip smacking he has never acted uset tummy wise minus his hairball pukes he did way back....but now I dont think he has the strength to do it...It passed as wow how to explain when I typed that though it was posted as the 31st I had not been to bed yet so to me lol it was the 30th...Today as in the 31st but this will post on August 1...he was fine...odd all in all...

The fur you are right he grooms his legs now and then but his balance to get his back and all ...well I dont think he can..We have used this cat foam shampoo but I am thinking he may need a real bath..I hate to do it to him but....maybe I need to?

EVERYONE will love the boards at CIC when they see them....You are always SO supportive and your love for our kids shows in all the time you spend on them....Midnight sends purrs magicmoon.gif turtle.gif thanks3.gif

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Daniel says he wants your labby to ask him formally for Precious' hand in marriage (he likes the match...he is just sentimental)...

as for purrs..they are so healing...sort of like a little vibration to go along with the ice and the heat.


I am okay, had x-rays today, and will get results tomorrow, and therapies.

No fun, but my doc said I have a big glass of lemonade waiting for me after all these lemons which have come my way!

Hugs to Midnight and your lab baby!  HUGS

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P.S. I am at the catsit, while vehicle is in the shop, so Daniel takes care of the dogs...Presh is in mourning for the latest from her sweet love...wish I could call her and let her know he is still in love with her.

The kitties here are like little kitty nurses, playing on the bed next to me all the time!

Hoping I can post on a bunch of threads, but if energy runs out, I'll catch them next time.

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AWWW Marea.....I am so glad youre on yet think you oughta be resting.....nag nag...Kitty nurses sooo cute...I will pop over to your thread to see how the results come out...


I am guessing that Daniel is umm Precious' dad???? The lab looks frightened but will do it he said.....does he have to fly in to ask? He is not allowed to fly in summer.....but said he will pack a sack and hoof it to ask just to be her hubby some day.


Midnights sends many head butts but refuses to purr till you are better.....or semi better..he said if you were here he would purr you to sleep..

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Not much new here gang Midnights about the same it;s VERY hot again and my A/C is needing freon.....If hubby got the job we would not know..sigh the cats knocked the answering machine over..its been kinda long since the interview so I doubt it...Midnight sends headbutts to all.

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kitty nurses are the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!! Angel15.gif

no flying during summer! so we will arrange a way to meet Daniel, who is indeed, Precious daddy!

more soon...off to ice, and post just a bit...have to keep my IMOM addiction in check to keep my back okay.

just 8 wks tmt, so that is good, could have been much worse

car very expensive, but will work out somehow....the city of course!

Hugs to midnight and mysterious labby!

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he said if you were here he would purr you to sleep..
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Awwww, Midnight, kiss kiss! Angel15.gif I feel better already, thinking of your purrs! whitekitty.gif

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Daniel could fly here....with and Precious being small could fly in with him ON the plane...you can come too haahahha laugh.gif If..IF the mystery LAB ever gets his TDI...he could them fly inside the plane too...He has been writing her name over and over like a love sick pup tongue.gif

Midnight and I agree you have the best care minus him...all those kittie nurses taking care of you..I hope they fluegal YOUR food so you eat too

What is tmt? sorry I am duh

Midnight and I had a in the house no way going out kinda day..it was way too hot and even the AC could only do so much we need freon....So we just stayed in ..when the lab napped I put him in his crate and laid with Midnight on me...listening to music....it was so peaceful I swear that cat is so healing to me....At once point I was exercising and had him on a chair on my tank top...he liked that..we had great quality time today..it boosted both of our spirits I think

I wish again to thank all who support us in donations, sponserships , prayers and support its time like today..when we can spend some GOOD time together that I am mindfull of what a blessing you all are.....THANK YOU

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He has been writing her name over and over like a love sick pup heart.gif
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Daniel dreams of having A/C, but we have swamp coolers out here, which is evaporative cooling...works well when humidity is not high.

tmt is simply treatment...sorry, sometimes just resorting to shorthand here

Presh would dream of labby's name, but that is still a secret!

Tell Midnight, we send lots of LUV, and wish all needs are met, medically.

Have a great day! I see the doc 3x/week for about a month, or if less sessions per week, for about two months, then am done!, and the muscles don't hurt like they did over the weekend, though I am stiff...[just got so darned tired of lying down, figured I can ice sitting up and be on IMOM and be distracted...quite a sight to see...ice on my shoulders (those freeze bag things) and Presh on my lap! all lovesick]...he has the magic touch and machines to make things better.

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Today, he was laying on me and I play with his ears a lot always have like I bring them together and say WABBIT EARS..then I will do Unicorn...and so on....he is so cool and kinda likes it....its cute and makes me lol
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How cute!!! I used to play with Antares's ears too. And then, I would cover him with necklaces and he loved it. If you need any help figuring out the dosage for the vitamins and pet-tenic, don't hesitate to ask. A lot of people around here will be able to tell you.

Thinking of you and Midnight everyday. I don't post as often as before - I am a little swamped with my new second job now, but I still read posts on regular basis. So if you have a question, let me know. You know where to find me.

Many kitty kisses to Midnight and the rest of your fur babies. Best wishes to your husband for his job search.

HUGS

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WE NEED PRAYERS

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OMG I am stunned...we do not have any details yet they called and left a message saying they have an offer on a temporary job at the comany he interviewed at a while back..MAJOR COMPANY...the lady said she would call him back tonight we were out and well we don't know how much and all....or how temporary....its a 3 hrs drive to and from and being no benefits we would need some good cash to do this....OMG PRAY hahahaha I don't care if you belive or not PLEASE pray...I figure if you don't belive and pray we will get extra credit and well it will work out... laugh.gif We have been sitting my the phone waiting..We are pretty close to losing the house and the phone semi soon so this would be soooo good if we can do it...then we need prayers on the car...
My nephews and brother own our family cottage not too far from there IF they let us move with the pets say..in Sept or Oct..we could sell the house and not be so under the gun cash wise/...I would still bring my kids to my vet here but...OK so enough for now..I will post on the kids later...WE ARE SOOOOO EXCITED AND ALSO SCARED IT MAY END UP BEING YET ANOTHER DISSAPOINTMENT

Midnight sends magicmoon.gif HEADBUTTS and hopes his dad gets a good job even a year with them...6 months.... scarecat.jpg

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What an IPB Image !! I'm sending TONS of positive thoughts your way and truly hoping things will work out with this employment offer!!!!

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Thank You Victoria...I do not know much yet but a job tongue.gif  this will be such a blessing..Ya know..I was just heading over to CIC..I am too hyper to post much right now and to think IF he has the job and the gas works out...we will be finally crawling out of this mess ...I am sooooo hyper I would scare you in person I am not good at waiting and she said to she hopes start on MONDAY...I wish she would call with the details....... thanks3.gif FOR THE PRAYERS

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Prayers coming your way for sure, but I am going to picture they have already done the paperwork, and are just waiting on some final details before they call back...okay you all at the company, can you hear my thoughts...this is your man!!!!!! Angel15.gif

You all so deserve this job, and oddly, Daniel's came at the very last moment too, so I am crossing my fingers for you.

Precious says, YES, YES!!!!!!

We will be there for you no matter what the news.

Someone said the other day, when a small door closes, a BIGGER one opens...I had heard the general expression, but had not thought about it in a way that greater prosperity comes after a tough time often. So, it is either on its way through this avenue, or quick on its heels through another one, but I am hoping for this one, since it sounds very exciting!

TONS OF PRAYERS... heart.gif

Precious and Marea

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I am sooooo hyper I would scare you in person I am not good at waiting and she said to she hopes start on MONDAY...I wish she would call with the details....... Angel15.gif
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"scare you in person laugh.gif"

Okay, human resource lady, CALL, CALL, CALL...let's get this IPB Image rolling! whitekitty.gif

Precious and Marea

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thinking positive for your husband, that all the pieces fall smoothly into place. IPB Image
first he starts there Monday-second that you and the furbabies are able to move into your relatives house and lastly
that you sell your own house quickly. waycool.gif  yes i can see this happening easily.HUGS to you and that sweet Midnight,hope there is some snuggling going on tonight. heart.gif
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Sending positive thoughts for your husband too and asking angel Antares for his help with that matter. I keep all my fingers crossed as well as my toes.

Aline & Angel15.gif Antares
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URGENT MATTER ON RAINBOW

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My friend Carole who is a true Angel15.gif has been struggling with the illness of her loved kitty Rainbow....I just found this out in more detail ....she assist feeds her and so much and right now Rainbow is at the vets ...with anemia and pneumonia.....so many systems are failing her,.,,COULD you all PLEASE say a lot of prayers for BOTH of them..Carole also has a CRF kitty Marie and she takes food to homelsss pets at night and all...

Thank you all

Still no call back from the job I will let you all know and thank you for the posts I will catch up sad.gif

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Yes, sending those prayers along too for your friend, with more for your husband's job situation as well! heart.gif

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So sorry to hear about Rainbow....I'm sending lots of prayers.

Also, keeping my fingers crossed about a phone call regarding the job!!

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wow....wow ...and WOW


Hi everyone sorry for no word till now but that lady didn't call last night and did today...here it is....OK IN BREIF.....HE GOT THE JOB FOR 30 TO 60 DAYS....A TEMP JOB BUT GOOD PAY.....THEN WE GET HOME AND SOME COMPANY NEAR KY CALLED AND SAID MEGA GOOD MEDICAL *THE BEST YOU CAN GET...5 DOLLAR CO PAY ON ANY MED AND 15.00 A MONTH ....* PLUS GREAT PAY
A JOB NOT TEMP AND GOOD PAY LOOKING TO REPLACE SOMEONE NOW AS THEY ARE GOING TO FIRE THAT PERSON TODAY AS THEY SHUT DOWN MERCEDES WITH SOME ERROR....NOW MONDAY THEY ARE WANTING HIM TO SIGN A DEAL WITH MANPOWER FOR THAT TEMP JOB BUT ...THE OTHER COMPANY MAY WANT TO INTERVIEW HIM ..WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF HE QUIT ON ONE TEMP JOB TO INTERVIEW ON THE REAL JOB......YIKES ..WHAT DO WE DO???......We are like stunned and I am crazier than ever...I think all that paw crossing and Ailenes sweet angel cat are making it rain jobs on us....hahah but we dont know what to do..Its like a bird in the hand but that bird is short term.. laugh.gif WHAT TO DO...Keep praying for us please cause we are sooo confused ..He is suppose to start work Monday and I bet sometime take off next week to fly to KY on the other company to interview....WHAT DOES ANYONE THINK???

Midnights fine but to be honest we have been sooooo into all the job calls and sending his resume in word and all that poor Midnight only got Night Time snuggles....MORE LATER TONIGHT I need to check on Rainbow and thank you for the prayers then I wanna get OUT of the house I am stir crazy thanks3.gif

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Since they said the temp job is 30 to 60 days, usually, both you and they have a probationary period (I always thought that sounded so criminal doesn't it?)...so, if he can get an interview in, by just missing one day, or none at all (or doing some flex time)....if it were me, I'd take the temp job, since the other job may take some time to get him all ready to go, maybe even close to 30 days with relocating...if they know they want him ASAP (which sort of looked like the case), it is a tougher call, because if they don't choose him..yikes!

The thing is, do you work in a right to work state? In those states, no-one has to give a notice, not the employer or the employee...though it is desirable to do so.

As a temp worker (this company sounds very good though), I would imagine many work for a week, then find the job is not for them, and politely bow out. He could do that without telling them or the other job he had to do that, and it is not unethical...it is more like reality, because if he doesn't get the other job that is permanent, he is really going to need the temp job.

So, that is just my opinion, and it might really be bad advice...I always try to give a 2 week or more notice, or not take things I can't fulfill, but if I am at risk of having my phone turned off, or losing my house...it puts it into another category...like street smarts!

luck.gif no matter what, remember, my advice is worth exactly what you paid for it..  tongue.gif

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well if you have to fly out for the interview and relocate then that whole process could take 30 days. So i would take the temp job-start that-fly out to the interview and go from there. if the temp wants him, if they here he is still interviewing it may just push them to hire him full time. still sending postive energy you will know what to do. magicmoon.gif give pets to that beautiful Midnight from all of us. HUGS
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Hey thanks3.gif ok I first should explain that I type like a word a minute and have to LOOK at the keys so thats in part why I fall behind and my eyes..I wish I could type fast like so many so I would not be a worm and owe so much email and posts...hahah OMG I am sooo crazied

Thank you on the opinions and yes keep them comming..See yes we do live in a work by hire or whatever BUT being he will have to sign up with MANPOWER for the temp JOB that was not the deal when he interviewed I THINK he may have to BUY the contract out if he leaves...Like what the company pays to Manpower...Or it would be a no brainer lol he would take it and wait on the other...
THESE ARE BOTH major companies and the KY will put us up..or him..whomever they hire in a rental.....while the relocate goes down so they can get him/whomever to work asap..BOTH jobs he has over 34 years of experience in

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So we will all think on this job issue cause MIDNIGHT said he feels left out lol.....Today I gave him his SuperB Vitamin stuff by syringe...anyone know if thats ok? or should I ALWAYS do by gel cap??? ...
Then when I got home I went out for a ride by myself silly but I needed to get away.....I came in and MADE the time to lay with him..and we talked on maybe he will become a southen Gentleman kitty IF we move to KY IF dad were to get that job..and how we may not lose this house cause dad will start the other job...and that MAY briing us current on most not all but most of our bills ..I told him he would finally get to see the cottage...its been in my family since I was 5...IF his uncles and cousins allow it..My bro and his kids would but my nephews ..1 is allergic to cats and may say no..I am highly allergic to cats but ....so it was cute watching his face ...he looks so intently at me and LISTENS....I love him so much....I fed him liver mixed in his other food and well you know he is older and didnt one to play....so our quiet loving moments are our time and its such a blessing......

Ailene I was thinking of you playing with your dear Angel15.gif kitties ears too and had to lol..I think we all meet for a reason in life..and to me this is a huge sign

Marea...I hope you feel some better...Labby that mysterious french one...sends big kisses to all of your family I think he is kissing up to Daniel..Thanks for the help and kee giving us your free thoughts cause we are all duh....We are too broke to pay right now anyhow laugh.gif You will hear from me...

Victoria thank you on the job and everything as always you are a kind gentle person

paulajmnj.....please KEEP comming back your support means a LOT and yes this job could end up as a perminate job the first lady hubby spoke with was from Corp and said she wanted him to be a full time employee...but the company tossed this out and thats what it is for now....but yes they could end up testing him and keeping him..I should mention to all these are the kind of jobs most people take and keep and retire on.....

Carole IF youre reading this PLEASE know I am praying and so are the people on here ...I had trouble getting back into yahoo and will try late tonight..LATE...
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Please do not think if my hubby starts the job on Monday that we will not need your help...This job IF it runs the fiull 60 days will only bring us current on our house, utilies and my medical bills...maybe...Then I was suppose to get glasses to maybe avoid the needle in the eye procedure but....could not afford them...BUT when we can fly on our own we will let EVERYONE know and help someone else in return..PAY IT FORWARD ...was a great movie..we want to live it..BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE HELP SO FAR..PLEASE DON'T FORGET US heart.gif

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Wow, you can type a key on th e computer and everything disappears, or maybe it jsut sends it on..anyway, Midnight, thank you for purrs, and labby, thank you for "french" kisses! laugh.gif They are working!

Hope the KY company would just go ahead and give him at least a year long contract, so he could just go for that one.

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Oh boy, Sandy; you've got a lot on your plate. I would take the temp job too with the idea to quit if getting hired by the other job. In California, we are not required to give a notice when quitting, but it is always polite to give a bit of a notice. My best wishes....

Kisses to Midnight and HUGS to you and your little family.
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Sandy,

Thinking of you and hoping today was a good day. Do you and your husband feel better about a plan of action with the prospective jobs?


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That's for sure! I know its a stressful situation, but also exciting...I'm thinking of you and truly hoping a wonderful outcome is headed your way!

Sending lots of hugs your way and smooches to Midnight! heart.gif

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The sad news is Rainbow my dear friend Caroles kitty went to the bridge o friday....keep them both in your prayers.

We are still confused on the job issues but either way its all ab blessing

I will catch up.. REALLY

Midnight and I say out in the sun today...I havent taken him out much in years cause of fleas and ticks and all but I wanted something to be fun or different for him...He was tense so maybe not again...and well he ate the liver Aunt Carole got for him ...It was a pretty mellow and nice day..I think I am myself coming down with something but I will live

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I am sorry about Carole's kitty going to RB. heart.gif

Hope you are feeling better and don't come down with anything..maybe it was some allergies! heart.gif

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Marea thanks and don't worry on me it may be allergies or an infection but I have some antibiotic and I LIVE on Antihistamines cause I am laugh.gif very VERY allergic to cats...It may also be from the stress and not taking too good of care of myself the last couple few weeks....that will turn around

How do I know I will catch up lol because..hubby will leave for work at 5:30 am and get home well after 7 with the long drive so I will be online a lot more than...sorry I havent been posting directly to so many of you but we have been trying to do some things together like eat hahah we wont be doing any meals together anymore least not for 30 to 60 days...and we went to the beach near by and rented a movie ...cause once he starts it will be get home do the cat box...and turtles....Sub Q Midnight ....play a tad with doggy ....eat and go to bed ....

Midnight scared me last night..In case you all don't know the CIC site is back up and I was telling her about how he went running around last night up and down the hall...hubby was alarmed and told me then I got all worried but then it hit me ... laugh.gif I went to shower and he knew I went down the hall but not where....HE IS SO CUTE..OK I am gonna check on you Marea then I am gonna go watch the movie

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Sorry to hear your friends kitty went to RB. I hope Midnight is feeling good. scarecat.jpg
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