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mcduck

my ferals, semi ferals, and grumpy old lady(tuscany)

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Hi Kim, I think the lung worm thing might be the same as the visceral larval migrans - it would be worms that migrate into organs, especially lungs. The original feeling is that she was on the young side for that but who knows.

With the one dose of meds she didn't fight me too much. She might start getting wise to them. I remember when we tried Tuscany on elavil - she was nearly rabid with mouth foaming any time we came near her with the meds in anticipation. I'll see how Josie does. Thanks for the hint on the clindatabs. I sure hope this kitty turns around soon. She is at least showing a little more interest in her closet. She even ventured to the edge of the door of the closet/bedroom and looked like she was going to make a break for it. Mama certainly put her in her place......

I am hoping that Josie gets a little older and we can repeat her FeLv. Who knows, even though she was negative the first time around - she could be positive. Maybe this is contributing to her illness.

Hopefully all the comings and going this weekend, including 7 extra people here for 4 - 7 days doesn't get her too anxious. This is the main reason why she is up in my closet vs elsewhere in the house. I figure it is the one place that most people will stay out of anyways :>

Got to get medicate Josie again and get to bed. I have a full day of work and will need to come home to a full house of in laws and then figure out what I am cooking. Ya should have seen me in the store without my list - I just threw everything I might need (except the cranberry) into my cart. I am not sure which recipe I'll follow - but at least I have almost any ingredient I may need.

Hey, anybody have any thougths on lung specialists in cats??? Anyone ever have their cat get a bronchial washing?? Joyce

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JOSIE UPDATE: She might be improving some. She certainly is moving around more and quicker. She has started exploring our bedroom (under the bed, where else) and seems to be interested in playing a very little bit. She still seems to breath too fast almost all the time, but less fast than before. She is starting to talk to us, including making noises that sound like a dog whining. She is laying on her side now and giving me her belly to rub. Still have to "catch" her to pick her up but she seems content when being held. Still don't know what I'm going to do with her should she continue to improve. Hope everyone had a good thanksgiving. I've had all my inlaws here, some since Tuesday. Nobody is leaving until tomorrow. We are having Christmas tonight. Ugh!!!!

Joyce

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Hi Joyce,

I'm glad to hear that Josie is improving. Those all soubnd like positive signs to me. I hope her improvement continues.

Tracy :stripekitty:

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Joyce;

Merry Christmas, LOL! Glad Josie is doing better....let me know how it goes...I've had some adoptions and hopefully will have room soon...should you decide to give her up!

Nancy

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OK, 6 of the house guests are gone as of yesterday. Now I only have about 12 hours left to get the monster in law gone. I know, cruel, but a week is more than enough. She speaks so loud (cause she won't wear her hearing aids) that all the outside cats are spooked. I haven't seen Mama in 2 nights now.

Josie: Still in the closet/bathroom area. I brought up the spinning/hiding mouse thingamajig and she loves it. She is playing more and being fiestier about her meds. I still have to snag her to make her sit in my lap - but them can't get rid of her :> She likes her belly rubbed. Oh, she also nibbled on me! Love those little nibbles.

I spoke to the vet today. Since she seems to be responding to that awful tasting Clindamycin we are going to continue it. Guess if she had toxoplasmosis you usually treat for 2 -3 weeks. Was it the clindamycin or the panacar?? Who knows. We are going to re xray next tuesday.

Nancy, We are still holding back on committing to her. I still may need to take you up on adoption but obviously need to get her thru this illness first. I'll keep you posted.

Later, Joyce

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Question for all you feral colony people: CAN YOU MAKE A FERAL TOO FAT????

My little colony certainly is looking pleasingly plump. Wee is almost chubby now - and I don't even see her eat too much. Even Annie has filled in and doesn't look anorexic anymore. Duke is big, Libbey looks fluffy.....

Maybe I feed them too much. I usually put out dry food (Chicken Soup) twice a day (full bowl in am, up to a full one in evening but if it is too dark the 'coons just eat it) and I usually try to give what ever cat shows up 1/2 can (5 oz can) of wet food. Too much??? Joyce

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Joyce, I'm glad that little Josie is feeling better. :)

As for the chubby ferals, I think it's good for them to have a little added "insulation" for the winter. They also tend to gain weight after they're altered. The one thing I'd watch for is that none of them gets so big that the cat can't reach its lower back and rear end to groom. With a housepet you can shave the fur back there and treat any irritation from urine or feces, but with a feral you'd have to retrap and then subject the cat to anesthesia again.

I just got some wonderful photos from one of my trailer park caretakers and everyone commented on how, um, "well fed" the cats are. ;)

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Joyce;

The ferals are also getting their winter coats now. Mine look plumper than normal, because of that.

The other thing is that maybe someone else is feeding them too! My ferals get the food I put out and wonderful scraps from a neighbor. When we move, the ferals are going with me (if they are good boys and let me trap them again), they will miss his scraps!

Nancy

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Guess who was found sleeping on our bed?? Josie figured that out tonight.

Guess who I still haven't seen since Sat. pm and it is driving me nuts - Mama is still AWOL. I wish she would at least do a drive by to let me know she was ok. Neurosis: Is she hurt, is she dead, is she at the animal control next on the list to PTS. Funny, I don't worry as much when I am gone and she is out....... Joyce

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Joyce, wondering how Ms. Josie is doing? Any pictures of her?

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Thanks Carol for asking about Josie. She continues to improve. She got a new room on monday am cause we had a painter coming and they needed in our closet. She now has 2 beds to go under but lucky for us they are singles so it is easier to reach for her. Last pm and tonight we have let her out and she has figured out how to come down stairs to the main level. We have to watch out though cause there are other cats here and cause there are way too many places to hid and we could "lose" her. She is playing alot now, got her a few new toys

(no banana) but still is being coy about us getting our hands on her. Once she is in our lap she appears to like it and settles in for a good long rubbing.

I have a recheck appointment on Tuesday. She will get another xray. Hopefully I won't have to buy another round of antibiotics. It is getting harder to nab her for them.

Mama did finally come home but not before I sent my husband to the shelter to look for her. He came back saying he checked over 100 cats and she wasn't there. He was shocked at how many cats were in there in cages. I kind of told him that's the life Josie will have if we give her to a shelter til/if she got adopted. Ok, Kim and Nancy, yes we are weakening.... It was probably very good strategy to send him to the shelter.

OK, got to go find the cat. I haven't integrated a kitten into this household in forever. I hope the others can adapt. I also still want to hold off on too much introduction til I get the all clear from the vet and get the 2nd Felv blood check.

Hope you all are having a good weekend. Joyce

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OK, we give up. Josie will have a home with us. It may be under a bed but she will be fed, loved (when she let's me get ahold of her) and warm. I hope she will settle into being an inside cat. This isn't quite what we thought about if we ever got another inside cat but as Nancy (I think) said, sometimes they pick you not you pick them.

Josie did go back to the vet this week. She had another Xray. She is finally seeing some clearing on the Xray and her lung sounds are improving. So it is continuation of the icky Clinamycin (I swear that is the main reason why she isn't coming to me now) and we will repeat a week of Panacur on the 12th.

Hope everyone's Christmas/holiday plans are going well. Joyce

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OK, we give up. Josie will have a home with us.

:banana::banana::banana:

It is futile to try and resist the one whose belly you like to rub. :lol:

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OK, we give up. Josie will have a home with us.

Joyce, we knew that.

Several weeks ago.

:roll::roll: (just had to tease you a little!)

Congratulations, Josie!

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Joyce, just checking in on your new family member, Josie! How's she doing?

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I've got one word describe Josie: KITTEN. OH what have we done!! I haven't had a kitten in 13 1/2 years. Are they like the ever ready bunnies??? Seriously, she is busy exploring the house and playing. She mostly hangs in our bedroom if given the chance. I can hear her running around upstairs. She isn't very delicate in her running or jumping yet. Mama Fur Face who is double Josie's weight will jump on the bed without us even feeling her. Josie makes her presence known.

She was allowed to sleep in our room last pm as MFF didn't come home, again. I certainly hope Mama isn't staying out in spite of us having Josie in the house. I don't want to shut her out and there is plenty of room and love for all. I miss Mama quiet little purr in bed.

Josie thought it was great fun to launch herself on the bed and sneak up on our toes. She also did quiet down and snuggle in. Man, she purrs loud in the middle of the night.

I am having more and more trouble getting her clindamycin liquid in her. I am to start the round of Panacur again today. Hopefully there is an end to all this in another 5 -10 days. I've given up being diplomatic and gentle with Josie. I now get broom out after 5 minutes of trying to coax her out from under the king size bed. I can usually use the broom 4 -5 times and get her under the tv stand and then nab her. If she isn't wise to me I can actually get her locked in the bathroom with me and then it is easier to catch her.

News from the outside: Libbey is learning about the sunroom. I have got her into the sunroom thru the cat door, with me holding the door open. Last night I got her to go out the door with her doing the pushing open. Yeah, another one that might learn that it is warm and cozy in there all winter long.

Haven't seen the probable sibling of Josie's in a few days/week. It was very elusive anyways and I don't stand with my nose to the window ALL day, honest. So it might be coming and I just don't see it.

I may need help soon with my husband. He is beginning to feel abandoned for cats. I hope Josie bonds with him so he can share kittie love. Opps I just tried to add an emoticon and think I hit attachment instead. There is no attachment. I have started taking some pictures of Josie. After the XMas rush I'll try getting some on line. Which means I have to ask my husband.... Joyce

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Ah, yes, the wonderful KITTEN KRAZIES! I thought I was going to escape them by adopting "adult" cats, but my 1 year old is about as whacko as a kitten and has just as much energy! Oh, well, I guess she'll grow out of it in a year or 2 or 3 or 4! LOL And it is amazing how something that only weighs a few pounds can make enough noise and thumping for a herd of elephants! I hadn't had a kitten in 16-1/2 years!

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OK, anyone have any suggestions? I am going up north for the weekend. We have decided to take Josie with us. Might as well try to get her acclimated to different circumstances. I will use the carrier to get her up there. I will lock her in our bedroom unless we are settled in the house. I don't want to take the chance of her escaping while someone goes in and out. I don't think she will be happy with this. My sister and friend Kim (who had watch Josie for a week while we were gone) both tried to see Josie this weekend. She did the kat freakout when she saw new people and of course went and hid. Do these semi ferals, now indoor kittens ever acclamate to other people?

She still is on clindamycin. I'm going to do a search after this and see how long the duration of treatment for toxo is. She certainly seems totally fine now.

She still plays very hard to get. Shadows you, plays with you but dances out of reach yet at night crawls right up into bed and snuggles in with you and wants to be pet. Go figure. Maybe we are less scarey while we are reclining.

I'm sure Tuscany isn't going to be happy with the travel arrangements. She hasn't had to share the car with another cat for a few years.

I hope everyone has a good holiday! Joyce

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Well we survived Josie's first trip up north. She did very well. Not a peep out of her in the carrier and no bathroom issues either. Tuscany did her usual 20 minutes of meows before settling in. I think she realizes that if the car trip is longer than 20 minutes she isn't going to the vets so it is ok.

When we arrived up north the power was out. I had forgot the key as I usually rely on a punch code on the garage door. No power, no punch code. Did finally track down the neighbor who had a key. Had to go to 4 places to get him - at least it was still before 11pm. I had visions of which hotel I was going to put 2 cats, my mom on her oxygen and 2 very packed coolers of food. It was a scarey thought!

Josie did great. Mostly hung in the bedroom where I had locked her in the first few hours. She did explore some of the house later. After the other 3 people arrived she didn't socialize much except the first morning when 2 of them were up she did go down and watch them, gradually moving in closer. When I got up she actually jumped on the couch with me briefly and went over to the one guy and swatted at his hand. So I guess this is some improvement.

I gave Josie an early christmas present. I stopped shoving the clindamycin down her throat. She is starting to come to me more often now. Hopefully she will forget those 6 weeks of torture soon.

At home here she has the run of the house. I think she wants to be the alpha cat here. She is not shy and starts the growling first. Then she tries to ambush the other cats even as they are growling back. Josie has the funniest noises. Her meows are mostly silent or a small squeak. She growls like a mountain lion and when she is really upset (like if I pick her up without her realizing it is coming or when one of the other cats finally lifts their paws at her) she has this very loud scream. It is a scarey noise coming from her.

Mama Fur Face isn't at all happy with this cat in her bed. Josie bounces around alot. I swear the other morning she was using me as a dive board. She'd jump up on the bed, then take a flying jump on and off of me, hit the other side of the bed once and then the floor. She also is still very much into the toes under the covers but she doesn't stop there. She does this whirling dervish imitation up the legs. I've tried to figure out what exactly she is doing but if I sit up to look, she stops and leaps off the bed. Mama doesn't put up with this stuff. Sometimes we now have growl sessions in bed but more often MFF leaves and sleeps elsewhere. THis makes me very sad. I am concerned that MFF will not want to come in anymore and I miss her in bed. She used to climb up to our chest and sit and purr that quiet purr of hers and snuggle. Sometimes I'd have to move my head cause she starts to drool and I'm not keen on having the drool hit my lips.....

Tuesday night found my husband and I home alone (at last), done with dishes, wash and cleaning up by 8:30. Now mind you, our schedules are such that I'm usually just getting home by then and we are just sitting down to eat. It was very strange to look at the clock and think that I had hours left of the night and could just relax. We decided to play scrabble in front of the Xmas tree. Josie joined us and proceded to entertain us. She was all over that room, doing strange things to the couch, attacking toys. Way too much energy there but I think she liked having all that time with us. MFF and Wee were in there part of the time but wanted no part of the whirling dervish.

I will take Josie back to the vet next week. We need another chest xray to see if things have cleared up totally. She certainly shows no sign of having been so sick. I think she is also due for another blood test. It will be a good time to have the claws trimmed again. Funny, I can do MFF and Wee's but at this time don't think I could even attempt Josie's.

Kitten life, I think as entertaining as it is, I should stick to the adult cats :>

Hope Santa was good to all of you and the furkids. Wishing a great 2007 for everyone. Joyce

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Cute kittie story about Josie this am. I was in the bathroom upstairs where I have a feeding station. Josie has been drinking and eating here for at least 4 weeks now. All of a sudden she is studying the water bowl which has cats around the rim and a cat on the inside bottom of the dish. She decides she needs to get that cat on the bottom of the bowl. So in goes one paw, quickly out cause it is now wet. Try the other paw, humm, same thing. Back goes the first down to the bottom of the water and she is scratching at the picture. Of course can't remove it so trys with the other paw. You know cats with water - of course they have to shake those wet paws. I'm sorry but I was hysterical at these antics. Water everywhere but it wipes up and it was so worth watching!

It is funny how little antics like this all of a sudden start memories of when Merlot and Tuscany were kittens. Merlot used to "drown" the fur mice. I don't know if he thought they needed a cleaning or what. It was always a bit startling when the mice were pink or blue cause the water would turn that color.

Tuscany was a jewelry thief. The first time we noticed we had been away for the weekend and came home to find my earrings that I had on the dresser scattered on the floor. These were just kept in an open glass container. I matched up the pairs and found that there were 2 different ones missing. We searched and searched. Finally found 1 downstairs by the front window. Couldn't find the other for weeks. Figured it was long lost, perhaps vacumed up. It was a small sapphire stud. One day in the bathroom I heard a odd noise after flushing. I realized I had been hearing that noise for a few days/week. Got down on my hands and knees to check inside the toilet and I see something shining in there. Course had to stick my hand in there to fetch and lo and behold there was my earring. How long had it been in there? We certainly had used the toilet I was shocked it hadn't been flushed. That wasn't the only time Tuscany stole my goods. Several times I'd find chains that I left out missing. Once I came home and a gold chain was in their food dish. She had carried it from the upstairs bedroom down the stairs into the laundry room. Maybe her and Chloe could do a caper somewhere - chloe steals the money and tuscany gets the jewels...

Joyce

PS: Nancy or Kim or other trappers: I want to trap Josie's probably litter mate before it gets pregnant (looks like a girl). What about mid winter trapping? Any problems with the hair that gets shaved off? So far our Michigan winter is ok but that could turn at any moment.

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Hi Joyce;

I haven't been around much...stopped in here to tell you I have some room at the rescue now...and I'm glad you don't need it :) Hooray that Josie is Home for good!

I haven't done much winter trapping, but will attempt to soon. We are moving about three miles from my current home and will need to trap and move my ferals, as if I don't my neighbors will trap and kill them! This will include finally trapping (I hope) my elusive female and she will get fixed when I trap her! From what I've been told by others it's safe to TNR in the winter!

Hay, you went up North and didn't pop into Frankenmuth to see the rescue...next time you must stop in! We are only 5-10 minutes off the highway you know ;)

Hope your Christmas was Merry and Happy New Year!

Nancy

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Maybe her and Chloe could do a caper somewhere - chloe steals the money and tuscany gets the jewels...

Bite your tongue Joyce!!!! That's all I need, an accomplice for Chloe that steals jewelry... :lol: A cash thief in the house is bad enough... :smokin:

Wow, little Josie sounds like she's doing very well! Aren't kittens fun? :P

My little one just learned how to tip over the garbage can.....just great.. :cool026:

Glad to hear Josie is doing well!

Laura

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What about mid winter trapping? Any problems with the hair that gets shaved off?
Joyce, she'll be fine. Just remind the vet (or vet tech) not to shave off more than they need to.

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typing t;his with Wee nudging my arm and Josie sitting at desk. Amazing, we have a loud friend over and Josie came down and watched us in the kitchen! Progress. I've taken a lot of pictures and my New Years resolution is to learn how to put them on site. Joyce

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JOSIE UPDATE: We went to the vet yesterday for followup. She had her 2nd FLV test and it was negative still. She had another xray - things continue to improve but still not 100 % clear. She is not on any med and is doing fine. She continues to become more and more social with us and ventures down when people are over. Right now she is sitting in front of my screen trying to smash the dancing banana. Too cute. Joyce

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